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GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#1New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 02:02:35
Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him sacrificed.

The law in heaven is that the oldest dies first if there is to be a death. That is the only proper law for Gods, --- if they could die that is.

As above so below.

If we interpret that law and apply it to a human family, then the first to die would be fathers, followed by wives and lastly, children. Fathers are to die before sons. That is God’s law.

As above so below then would indicate that the law of the sea should also be the law of the land. It says that women and children are saved first then the men.

Men would need to recognize their duty to sanctify the family by placing women and children above themselves. IOW, equality does not exist in heaven nor should it exist in our human law.

Knowing this, God would never have his son sacrifice for a ransom that God himself would have had to set. One does not put a bounty on a son’s head.

I am not an atheist but Satan and Christians want atheists to embrace barbaric human sacrifice and the notion that we should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty. Christian preach for Satan. Shame on Christians for their immoral dogma and tradition of embracing blood sacrifice.

In reality, if God did demand such a barbaric sacrifice, he would be sinning. He would know that barbaric human sacrifice is immoral.

You do as well. Right?

Those with good morals will know that no noble and gracious God would demand the sacrifice of a so called son just to prove it's benevolence nor would God break heavenly law.

If you are a believer in the vile notion of the human sacrifice of Jesus Christ, when you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased?
With innocent blood?

If you say yes and point to you scapegoat Jesus, you become Satan’s.

Have you embraced human sacrifice and do you plan to try to ride your scapegoat Jesus into heaven, --- on your way to hell?

Regards
DL
DorkySupergirl On November 02, 2017




, Canada
#2New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 02:50:44
With all due respect, you do not see me on TFS trying to covert people or me telling them they are going to hell if they are not saved, preaching at people etc. I respect people, their opinions and it makes no difference to me if they believe in God or do not believe, if they are good to me, I am good to them and we'll be friends.

So how about the same respect? How about you stop bashing God and those who believe in him. People should be able to come to this site and not be preached at and people should be able to come to this site without being mocked or having to see this stuff about God.

Respect.
Electric_Banana On November 15, 2019




, New Zealand
#3New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 04:16:35
Feckin' Commies!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

Search Google for "The Accuser"

This is the second result

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan
dookie On July 26, 2019
Foolish Bonbu





, United Kingdom
#4New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 07:32:32
Actual Christian doctrine is that the Son is co-eternal with the Father.

dookie On July 26, 2019
Foolish Bonbu





, United Kingdom
#5New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 07:38:00
Again, actual Christian doctrine is that the Son and the Father are One.

dookie On July 26, 2019
Foolish Bonbu





, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 07:42:26
Again, one can use the most literalist expression of ANY faith in order to call it into question (and it may well be worth doing to TRY to reach those who actually understand it - or worse, preach it - in that way.)

But it has to be said that Christianity itself, at heart, remains largely impervious to such attacks.

Electric_Banana On November 15, 2019




, New Zealand
#7New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 09:42:44
@dookie Said



But it has to be said that Christianity itself, at heart, remains largely impervious to such attacks.




Mind-washing?
Electric_Banana On November 15, 2019




, New Zealand
#8New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 09:49:05
And BTW....my post is like...waaaaay off topic (sorta). Totally didn't make out the the thread title right.

And now that I have, I'm not sure how to rephrase it.

Maybe...

"Truly the wicked are those who expect no better..."

...Than a God who would murder his own son"

And then ramble on in the OP saying "Man, if dis s*** be so great den why dey always gotta play head tricks to sell it?"
bob_the_fisherman On November 15, 2019
Anatidaephobic





, Angola
#9New Post! Sep 26, 2013 @ 23:25:00
@GreatestIam2 Said

If you are a believer in the vile notion of the human sacrifice of Jesus Christ, when you die, Satan will ask you; how was your ticket to heaven purchased?
With innocent blood?

If you say yes and point to you scapegoat Jesus, you become Satan’s.


And, those who say no, meanwhile, are living under a delusion that they can attain the standard of perfection that is the only standard God accepts?

Personally, I will just agree with what the bible says of humans, and what I *know* of humans from observation and personal reflection - we rarely attain the lofty heights of being good, let alone attaining perfection.

@GreatestIam2 Said
Have you embraced human sacrifice and do you plan to try to ride your scapegoat Jesus into heaven, --- on your way to hell?

Regards
DL


Yet again, you present a false dilemma here. Christ actually *is* God. With the exception of the Jehovah's Witnesses and a few others, any one that spends any time reading the bible sees pretty clearly that Christ claimed, and his followers claimed, that Christ is God.

If you are going to attack Christianity, at least attack it for what it is, not for some heresy that only a small minority of muppets have ever considered plausible. Arianism is, and always has been, wrong.

Bob.
Erimitus On about 13 hours ago




The mind of God, Antarctica
#10New Post! Sep 27, 2013 @ 00:11:12
If it had happened today some child protection agency would be having a long talk with god, and with Abraham too.
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#11New Post! Sep 27, 2013 @ 13:33:46
@DorkySupergirl Said

With all due respect, you do not see me on TFS trying to covert people or me telling them they are going to hell if they are not saved, preaching at people etc. I respect people, their opinions and it makes no difference to me if they believe in God or do not believe, if they are good to me, I am good to them and we'll be friends.

So how about the same respect? How about you stop bashing God and those who believe in him. People should be able to come to this site and not be preached at and people should be able to come to this site without being mocked or having to see this stuff about God.

Respect.


I agree and will happily join your camp when the harm that the religions you say you respect start to fly right.

To leave them be at this point in time would be to endorse child abuse and murder.

It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists as well as those who do not believe. They all hurt their parent religions and everyone else who has a belief or not. They make us all into laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead but not the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic are evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHaClUCw4&feature=PlayList&p=5123864A5243470E&index=0&playnext=1

They also do much harm to their own.

African witches and Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=48b_1185215493

Death to Gays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_BVzw&feature=related

For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

It sound above like you advocate doing nothing and letting evil grow.

Where is you social conscience?

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#12New Post! Sep 27, 2013 @ 13:36:21
@dookie Said

Again, actual Christian doctrine is that the Son and the Father are One.



Then there can be no sacrifice as there is no lose or gain.





Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#13New Post! Sep 27, 2013 @ 13:39:11
@Electric_Banana Said

And BTW....my post is like...waaaaay off topic (sorta). Totally didn't make out the the thread title right.

And now that I have, I'm not sure how to rephrase it.

Maybe...

"Truly the wicked are those who expect no better..."

...Than a God who would murder his own son"

And then ramble on in the OP saying "Man, if dis s*** be so great den why dey always gotta play head tricks to sell it?"



Nice quote.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#14New Post! Sep 27, 2013 @ 13:44:33
@bob_the_fisherman Said

And, those who say no, meanwhile, are living under a delusion that they can attain the standard of perfection that is the only standard God accepts?

Personally, I will just agree with what the bible says of humans, and what I *know* of humans from observation and personal reflection - we rarely attain the lofty heights of being good, let alone attaining perfection.



Yet again, you present a false dilemma here. Christ actually *is* God. With the exception of the Jehovah's Witnesses and a few others, any one that spends any time reading the bible sees pretty clearly that Christ claimed, and his followers claimed, that Christ is God.

If you are going to attack Christianity, at least attack it for what it is, not for some heresy that only a small minority of muppets have ever considered plausible. Arianism is, and always has been, wrong.

Bob.



If Christ is God then Gods can die. Good. This particular God is not worthy of life.

You just go ahead and hide behind your ridiculous Trinity concept that was forced down Christianity's throat by Constantine.

God will show you as he sends you to hell just what he does with those who think he would break heavenly law.

Deuteronomy 24:16 KJV
16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

You have him putting Jesus to death for him and that pisses God off.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#15New Post! Sep 27, 2013 @ 13:46:19
@Erimitus Said

If it had happened today some child protection agency would be having a long talk with god, and with Abraham too.


But I am told that God owns us and can do whatever he like to us.

But Christians don't believe I slavery.

Moral and intellectual dissonance that.

Regards
DL
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