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townie_guy On May 07, 2013

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#61New Post! Jun 22, 2012 @ 14:12:10
@fitzyp Said

It doesn't work on a cost basis though because we consistently find that executing people costs more.



Well as above, it is more burdensome to execute them when all the costs are taken into account. It would also be argued that in a just society they are prevented from committing crimes with the minimal force possible.



Isn't that a quote that contradicts your previous statements?


But then again we are presented with how we make a just society??? People will always plauy the system and see what they can get away with. People will always what things they dont have. Unless we brainwash everbody and take away all feelings and emotions this is impossible.

No my comment does not contradict my previous posts. We let the criminals live, so as a society on a whole we are no better than the weakest link. Execute them and then we wont have any convicted murderers or rapists in our society.

Its like schools and grades, if you are gonna fail, you dont sit the exam, then it dosnt look bad on the school sats, as most the people should pass.

As harsh as it is tho, if you look at a penal colony or a prison, ther system of dealing with people playing against the system is genrally a lot more effective than our "civilised" ways. So really you gotta ask who is in the better society.
xLETHAL_VIXENx On January 22, 2015
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Your pants, United States (gen
#62New Post! Jun 22, 2012 @ 18:35:21
Killing them is just better for everyone
Rehabilitation_Please On May 20, 2016
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Peterborough, United Kingdom
#63New Post! Jun 22, 2012 @ 18:42:01
@xLETHAL_VIXENx Said

Killing them is just better for everyone


I'd say the same logic should apply to people who abuse domestic animals, especially kittens.
fitzyp On December 23, 2014




Auckland, New Zealand
#64New Post! Jun 23, 2012 @ 05:12:09
@townie_guy Said

But then again we are presented with how we make a just society??? People will always plauy the system and see what they can get away with. People will always what things they dont have. Unless we brainwash everbody and take away all feelings and emotions this is impossible.


The question is how can we minimise all the harms caused by crime. I think a system that imprisons those who are a danger to society and attempts to minimise their future risk and costs to society with the least amount of force necessary is the best way to achieve this.

@townie_guy Said

No my comment does not contradict my previous posts. We let the criminals live, so as a society on a whole we are no better than the weakest link. Execute them and then we wont have any convicted murderers or rapists in our society.

Its like schools and grades, if you are gonna fail, you dont sit the exam, then it dosnt look bad on the school sats, as most the people should pass.


The quote you used is meant to mean that a civilisation should be judged by how it treats is weakest or least liked members. The way we treat these people reflect on us.

@townie_guy Said

As harsh as it is tho, if you look at a penal colony or a prison, ther system of dealing with people playing against the system is genrally a lot more effective than our "civilised" ways. So really you gotta ask who is in the better society.


Yes and no. If we take murder as an example, most of the countries with low homicide rates do not need to use barbaric methods to achieve this. Most of them have abolished the death penalty yet still manage to achieve low rates of homicide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#2010s
townie_guy On May 07, 2013

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#66New Post! Jun 23, 2012 @ 11:26:38
@fitzyp Said


The quote you used is meant to mean that a civilisation should be judged by how it treats is weakest or least liked members. The way we treat these people reflect on us.




Well if you want to go and make friends with some serial killers and rapists go ahead. If you look on the sex offenders register theres some people for you to treat nicely. However as a human race that is ultimately how civilised we are, we are rapist murderers and paedophiles. Until we can get rid of these peopl and stop these crimes fom happening, we will never be any better as a whole.
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