@MisterX Said
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For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment.
If that verse is not true, if it is false, the Bible is false; which both of of you are implicitly saying, that the Bible is false.
@MisterX Said
Electric Banana, see post above, there is an eternal death, in which the person or being is always aware of where they are. And they are in fire, and burning.
@mrmhead Said
BINGO!!
... though I will give you that there do seem to be some historical references that are accurate.
But if you insist that I make a 100% binary decision of true or false, I will say false.
You treat heavy things in a light manner--since if it is true, then you are doomed. I am not here to proselytize to you, but merely to present a belief that I have.
I have a Book to rely on, but you have nothing except your own opinion. I won't wish you good luck with that, and I would not want to be you on Judgement Day.
@Erimitus Said
X: If that verse is not true
Then; the Bible is false;
E: I do not understand your reasoning. Please explain
X: you are implying that the Bible is false.
E: Some stories, as told by ancients who may have just eaten some kind of mushroom, are metaphorical i.e., neither true nor false.
E: you seem to have misinterpreted what I have said.
X: I believe that there are angels in Hell, in chains, and with no light at all. It is utter darkness and it is a prison for them, until they are cast into the Lake Of Fire. It is not hard to believe that, not for me.
E: If you believe this literally then it is true for you. I respect your belief.
Lazy thinking, since if it is true for me, it would follow that it is true for you. There are angels in Hell right now, and it is true, irrespective of what you or I think.
@Electric_Banana Said
There is such a thing as having many good ideas to share while at the same time being wrong with a few of your ideas
The Bible doesn't have to ace everything for it's wisdom to have value to if you're finding some parables of value.
If you don't leave at least a 10% probability of being wrong about everything you'll never learn anything more.
Sounds to me like someone broke something then; otherwise it's time to pull up our pants and break out our artillery because we're being held by a sadistic tyrant.
Who is the sadistic tyrant that refer to? God?