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jmo On April 29, 2021
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Yorkshire, United Kingdom
#76New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 10:30:37
@Jennifer1984 Said

Ohhhh, the Spice Girl names that we all adopted. Yep, I had one too. Not going to tell though.

I'm not sure 'obsessed' is the right word, though. In our early teens, we all do fads and crazes. Most are incredibly shallow and pass quickly, but Girl Power had a message behind it that mainlined right into our psyche.... and stayed there.

You think as a boy, Townie. When you see the Spice Girls, you see sex objects. We saw a bunch of really cool girls who had attitude and were giving us a message that was new and fresh and we wanted to absorb.

For a lot of girls of my age, social life focused around what boys wanted to do and that was a dominant force. Our older sisters, and girls in school who were a couple of years senior to us were pretty much role models in that regard. The prevailing attitude was that to get anywhere, you had to do what THEY wanted you to. If HE said he wanted you to cut your hair, you cut your hair. Girls, once they got the boyfriend they wanted would do anything to keep him That was how it was.

And boys knew it.

And then along come these lively, exuberant, sassy young women who said to us: "You know what..? You don't have to do what THEY want you to. You don't have to dress to please them. You don't have to do anything except what you want to do."

Stores like 'Claires' were starting to open and they sold girly stuff that we liked because it was pretty and bright and glittery and we felt good when we adorned ourselves in it. My teen generation soaked it up like sponges and loved it. It was the start of an entirely new female youth culture. It was new and it was US.

It wasn't just fashion though, it was a means by which we learned to assert ourselves. We didn't have to do what THEY wanted us to do and no, I like my hair just the way it is. Dating was still good and something to be desired, but from now on, it was going to be on OUR terms.

The Spice Girls didn't last long. Young teenage males quickly learned to resent this newfound 'Girl Power'. The last thing young men wanted was a female generation that didn't do as it was told anymore. And so there was negativity. Oh, they liked looking to see if they could get a little upskirt flash of Emma Bunton's knickers, or see if a bit of tit was hanging out. That's ok by them. But spreading a message that girls might actually want to look and dress and think for themselves..?

That's subversive. We can't have that.

And so what young men wanted... what they really, really wanted, was for the Spice Girls to fade and die. As it happened, the band imploded of its own accord in the end which solved that little problem quite neatly.

But the message had made its mark. It was now part of our mindset. I had friends who, adopting the new technology of mobile phones, would dump their boyfriends by text. It was easy, didn't involve any emotional stress and it felt powerful. Actually, it was incredibly cruel and in a way, quite cowardly. I didn't like hearing about it but I wasn't going to say so.

So, what of Girl Power now..? Well, I have a 13 year old niece whose ways are a mystery to her mother (my sister). Not to me, though. There are nine years between me and my sister and she was married by the time Girl Power hit the street. I was the one who rode that wave and I can easily see where my niece's attitude comes from. She is second generation girl power.

I have a nephew who is 18 months older and his behaviour towards girls is nothing like that of the boys who used to hang around our school gates. They were cocky.... full of themselves... treated girls just the same as their fathers and older brothers had. Not any more. Girl Power changed that forever. This generation of teenage boys treats young females more respectfully. More as equals. They have to because we don't take no s*** any more.

The band has gone, but the message has endured.

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I don't think most males are any where near as inherently sexist as you seem to think they are. And tbh I would be careful before putting the Spice Girls in the same group as the Suffragettes when it came to striving towards gender equality in this country.
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#77New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 10:34:34
@jmo Said

Why do you have to bring bloody nationality into everything? Just because your having a disagreement about the Spice Girls doesn't mean you have to have another go against Britain in your odd vendetta against the UK.

What the hell made you so bitter about Britain?



Jennifer.. Not Britian..

Please stop thinking that this has anything to do with your country... Your country is lovely.. My mothers father was born in the Cotswalds, and I have cousins there who are lovely... I also have friends from here who are British, and they're lovely.

If you haven't figured out that it's the posts of one individual that irk me by now, then you're not paying attention, as we've had this conversation many times.
jmo On April 29, 2021
Beruset af Julebryg





Yorkshire, United Kingdom
#78New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 10:36:31
@boxerdc Said

Jennifer.. Not Britian..

Please stop thinking that this has anything to do with your country... Your country is lovely.. My mothers father was born in the Cotswalds, and I have cousins there who are lovely... I also have friends from here who are British, and they're lovely.

If you haven't figured out that it's the posts of one individual that irk me by now, then you're not paying attention, as we've had this conversation many times.


You consistently mention Britain in your posts and criticise it for no apparent reason.
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#79New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 10:39:10
@jmo Said

You consistently mention Britain in your posts and criticise it for no apparent reason.


You have not yet been taught to read between the lines... It comes in handy.
townie_guy On May 07, 2013

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#80New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 12:04:05
@boxerdc Said

And of course, before them, there was never a woman who sang about taking control of her own life and "girl power"






Nope... Nobody ever thought to put out an act that showed that women had power and strength before those awesome Brits.. But they're the first and the best at everything, so it's really to be expected.


Well as a 30 year old I would say that spice girls were something different. Sure there may have been stuff many years before, but I would of been too young if I was even alive to notice it.

It's like when I mention Oasis, people just say that they were tring to be the Beatles. Well I Wernt alive when The Beatles were in there fame, so it means nothing to me. So I do agree with what Jennifer says about them being something different. Especially given her age as well. I can't think of any girl group who had the same level of fame.

Of course there is Steps who had same level of fame, but it Wernt a girl group and they are bloody awful.

So when people mention groups like The Who, it means nothing to me at all as I Wernt around then.
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#81New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 12:17:02
@townie_guy Said

Well as a 30 year old I would say that spice girls were something different. Sure there may have been stuff many years before, but I would of been too young if I was even alive to notice it.

It's like when I mention Oasis, people just say that they were tring to be the Beatles. Well I Wernt alive when The Beatles were in there fame, so it means nothing to me. So I do agree with what Jennifer says about them being something different. Especially given her age as well. I can't think of any girl group who had the same level of fame.

Of course there is Steps who had same level of fame, but it Wernt a girl group and they are bloody awful.

So when people mention groups like The Who, it means nothing to me at all as I Wernt around then.



Yeah.. you're right.
scardycat On May 17, 2014




, Australia
#82New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 12:49:11
@jmo Said

It's a bit s*** isn't it?


Saw bits of it all I have to say Thank God Its Over yippee
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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American Alps, Washington
#83New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 14:00:54
@Leon Said

Well I just found it comical that we have all these pages and pages here about a musical act, yet not one word was said about the actual music they came out with.


Hey now. I mentioned the two of their songs that I remembered that townie_guy mentioned their "bloody depressing" song.
ninozara On April 30, 2020




Cheshire, United Kingdom
#84New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 17:36:10
@Leon Said

I thought Wannabe was catchy, and still do, but I didn't hear much else from them, as it wasn't played by the stations I listen to. You mention the threat Girl Power had, but I think another reason people wanted them to go away was because people couldn't stand their music.



I remember the year they came out, for my Birthday my Dad gave me a stereo, the Spice Girl CD...and the order to never play that crap in front of him!
ninozara On April 30, 2020




Cheshire, United Kingdom
#85New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 17:45:40
On the train yesterday, I met a volunteer co-ordinator. He'd been at the closing ceremony and said it over-ran by a couple of hours! I thought it had, because the ending time kept changing on the TV.

It is somehow reassuring though.

Also, he his uniform said 'Olympic - Time Travel' which made me wish the Doctor had been there, and that Time Travel was an actual Olympic sport. That would be awesome.
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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American Alps, Washington
#86New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 17:49:02
@ninozara Said


Also, he his uniform said 'Olympic - Time Travel' which made me wish the Doctor had been there, and that Time Travel was an actual Olympic sport. That would be awesome.


I wonder what the goal would be. Everybody set their target for a specific time and whoever gets there closest to the exact time wins?
wednesday76 On February 25, 2013




Dodging the Daggers, United Ki
#87New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 17:53:50
@jmo Said

It's a bit s*** isn't it?


This made me snort laughing...You mean you where not impressed with the pet shop boys looking the proverbial d*** heads or the wonderful spice girls gracefully trying to hold themselves up on the top of a taxi?



I was a little bit unimpressed and expected a lot more from REAL British icons. Why on earth did we have models brought in on the back of a lorry is beyond me.

BUT.......i still stayed awake to watch the whole thing It was like watching a train wreck, i couldn't take my eyes away from the screen.
Silver_Lining On March 21, 2023
RIP Boobie





STOKE-ON-TRENT, United Kingdom
#88New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 18:00:35
@Jennifer1984 Said

OK... well.... London has done its thing. Let's see how Glasgow does with the Commonwealth Games, eh..?

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Can you not give it a rest now? Your hatred of Scotland is getting old and I don't tend to read that much of what you post so if I think that I dread to think what people who actually read all of what you write think!
wednesday76 On February 25, 2013




Dodging the Daggers, United Ki
#89New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 18:07:24
@Jennifer1984 Said

Loved the Spice Girls. They've all put on a little weight (except for Victoria Beckham) but that's to be expected. Loved them, loved them, loved them

Yes they did fairly well considering....
Not really sure why make a reference to their weight? And from what i could establish the only person who looked larger than 10years ago was Mel B. And she still looked good.
Odd statement to make...but hey i am getting to see a lot of those lately.
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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American Alps, Washington
#90New Post! Aug 14, 2012 @ 18:09:14
@wednesday76 Said

Yes they did fairly well considering....
Not really sure why make a reference to their weight? And from what i could establish the only person who looked larger than 10years ago was Mel B. And she still looked good.
Odd statement to make...but hey i am getting to see a lot of those lately.



Apparently it's a girl thing.
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