Illegal Immigration : IE: Mexico Border

and here is me thinking everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
there fore im sticking to this little witty anecdote everyone is smart until they prove themselfs otherwise

Ahh...so maybe one should move it to the politics or law section. That way, someone with authority, precedence and knowledge of the issue as well as law can try to solve it, instead of presenting it a genre of people who have absolutely no authority other than strong view points regarding the issue.

I understand the cliche's and double edge swords that are tied to illegal immigration. I posted what I posted as my way of hinting that it needs to move away from being looked at as solely a racial issue and instead into one that deals with our laws and economy.

With so many people constantly attaching the race card to illegal immigration...its clouding up the field. Illegal immigrants side by side with racism is pushed to the forefront when that in reality should be the last thing anyone looks at.

And no Razdit, illegal immigration is not a racism issue, its a legal issue. Just list out the problems with illegal immigration and you will see that it is first and foremost a legal, security, and financial issue before it is ever a race issue.

This thread is about the human horde of illegal alien criminals crossing into the US. Not US citizens.

They're not all criminals.

It's like calling all Americans serial killers because a small minority are.

Illegal immigration definitely not a "race" issue.

Illegal immigration is a numbers issue. That's right NUMBERS.

It's all well and good to be a "believer in humanity" and to espouse liberal ideals like, "immigrants are just looking for a better life, feed their families, escape corruption, whatever blows your dress up.

At some juncture, someone has to step up and say "enough".
we have reached our saturation point and we simply cannot save the world. STOP COMING HERE.

Turning the US into just another 3rd world country is not a solution for anyone. Some people will not be happy until American citizens are the one's in flight looking for some place that's cleaner, less crowded and has better opportunities.

Well, yes, they are. They are criminals by definition.

Eyeroll all you want, every single immigrant in this nation who circumvented the legal process is in fact a criminal.

True but does wanting a better life make you a criminal, if a guy stole a loaf of bread to feed his starving daughter would he be a criminal or a survivalist? (if that's a word)

Wanting a better life doesn't make you a criminal.

Breaking the law makes you a criminal.

So you're a criminal? In the eyes of the Native population.

People against and who gave slaves freedom were criminals. No?

News flash----> The "native" population lost a few hundred years back.
So, their opinion don't amount to much.

Yes.

I'm not arguing that it's necessarily wrong ethically or morally.

I am merely stating a simple fact to correct an incorrect fact you stated.

You said illegal aliens are not criminals. They are criminals. That is a fact. I will not discuss it further.

You clearly know f*** all about the destruction being wrought by hordes of illegals flooding the southern borders of the United States.

And you lost in Vietnam, If you went there and got treated like s*** be acceptable?