And if homosexuality could be discovered while still in the womb?

@magicgoat Said

What about all of those un-American ideas? Shouldn't we do something about it?

@magicgoat Said

The catch-phrase I've read here and elsewhere is "un-American."

What happens when American citizens say things which aren't American? Is that even possible? Can that happen?

@Eaglebauer Said

That's easy. Nothing has to happen. People are allowed to say things that someone else considers un-American. I know the label has been cast on you but it didn't come with any kind of reeducation did it? I think it's merely being pointed out that some people think your ideas are un-American in their views and that you are speaking hypocritically.

@magicgoat Said

McCarthyism was the technique used to out and discredit those loyal to the American way.

@Eaglebauer Said

I actually agree with you here.

One can be completely immersed in the spirit and meaning of what it is to be American and be a Christian and be pro traditional marriage at the same time.

The un-American label being affixed to you has nothing at all to do with the fact that you hold these beliefs. Absolutely nothing.

It is because you believe that since it is your belief it must incontrovertibly be the way everyone else lives that people are calling you un-American. You may live your life in the manner you believe is correct and teach your children what you feel is correct for them to know and believe so long as those beliefs do not harm or infringe upon another person's right to do the same thing. But when you try to instill that upon other people who are not your children and assume the role of moral watchdog to those who do not share your morals when it comes to questions that involve things that do no harm to other people, you cannot be surprised when you are called un-American for it.

It isn't your belief that traditional marriage is best and the Christian religion is correct that is un-American in so many eyes. It is your desire to legislate those beliefs upon people who do not share them.

@magicgoat Said

Without a doubt nearly every two parent home is preferable to a single parent home.

Please give me the number of studies you need for me to back up this point. I'll be on travel next week and will need some time but go ahead and ask.

How about five independent scholarly studies related to the benefit of two-parent homes verses single parent homes? Five. Will that work?

@shinobinoz Said

Nice diversion. Now stop dodging.

@magicgoat Said

Without a doubt nearly every two parent home is preferable to a single parent home.

Please give me the number of studies you need for me to back up this point. I'll be on travel next week and will need some time but go ahead and ask.

How about five independent scholarly studies related to the benefit of two-parent homes verses single parent homes? Five. Will that work?

@boxer Said

We absolutely should.. We should discuss them openly, and both sides should keep an open mind... then we should try to find a way to afford people equal rights without taking away rights from others..

But wait... we've already done that in 9 states and DC.. marriage equality affords equal rights to all couples, and forces no one to engage in any act they consider morally objectionable.

So, I guess we've already had the discussion about your ideas, and we've found a way to give me what I deserve as an American without trampling your rights in any way at all.

@magicgoat Said

Thanks shinobinoz. Tell me what am I dodging?

@nooneinparticular Said

Are both parents always better than one?

This paper suggests that its not just the structure of the family but also the dynamics of the family that contribute to the overall well being of a child.

@magicgoat Said

Fair enough. It doesn't say that single parents have an easier time than married parents. When a mother and father marry and stay married, the stability of the family increases.

@magicgoat Said

Fair enough. It doesn't say that single parents have an easier time than married parents. When a mother and father marry and stay married, the stability of the family increases.

@shinobinoz Said

It's just something you always do when you can't come up with some supposedly moral authority you want to assign to christianity. So if religion is the end all catch all for ya. What if I told you that according to many First Nations spirituality & religion we have never had a problem with same sex marriage. You wouldn't want to go against established religious beliefs would you?

@magicgoat Said

I would like to congratulate you for not answering me with a sarcastic response.

Please note that I'm not at all interested in same sex marriage. It's utterly futile.