And if homosexuality could be discovered while still in the womb?

He has admitted to being a hypocrite, and has also admitted that his religion is hypocritical.. so it's really not such a stretch.

And before he comes back and wants to know where he admitted that, I offered him three questions regarding his hypocrisy, and gave him the chance to show that I was wrong, and he declined.

The catch-phrase I've read here and elsewhere is "un-American."

What happens when American citizens say things which aren't American? Is that even possible? Can that happen?

É não americano para lhe responder em Português?

That is more likely to be what magic's talking about.




I thought the same thing at first. I still do from time to time. I was just teasing you.

That's easy. Nothing has to happen. People are allowed to say things that someone else considers un-American. I know the label has been cast on you but it didn't come with any kind of reeducation did it? I think it's merely being pointed out that some people think your ideas are un-American in their views and that you are speaking hypocritically.

What happens when American citizens say things which aren't American?

Depends. What happens to what?


Is that even possible? Can that happen?

Is that the same question twice? Either way, yes.

McCarthyism was the technique used to out and discredit those disloyal to the American way.

And?

The capital of Nebraska is Lincoln?

McCarthyism was also used to out and discredit some people who had done nothing wrong and just pissed off the neighbors. Think Salem.

What is the point you're trying to make here?

There is large movement whose goal is to prove that right isn’t right and wrong isn’t wrong.
If I say that pro-traditional marriage is sound and morally upright because it's the most efficient way parents can provide security and freedom for their children, the countervailing opinion descends with the purpose of eliminating rational thought, eliminating discussion, and using that as teaching tool—an example of how no one should ever ever talk.
There's absolutely no parallel between being pro-traditional marriage and being un-American. Or being Christian and being un-American.
That reminds me of McCarthyism in that sense. But instead of Joe McCarthy rooting out Communists it’s John Lennon’s crusade against those who imagine great countries or true religion.

No it's not and I've said as much already. Creating parents out of people does not automatically result in a better environment for children than single parenthood.



As opposed to ignoring people and tuning them out?



Hence why everyone was confused when you brought it up...



Great countries or true religion? Careful with the relativistic markers as they tend to blow up in people's faces.

I actually agree with you here.

One can be completely immersed in the spirit and meaning of what it is to be American and be a Christian and be pro traditional marriage at the same time.

The un-American label being affixed to you has nothing at all to do with the fact that you hold these beliefs. Absolutely nothing.

It is because you believe that since it is your belief it must incontrovertibly be the way everyone else lives that people are calling you un-American. You may live your life in the manner you believe is correct and teach your children what you feel is correct for them to know and believe so long as those beliefs do not harm or infringe upon another person's right to do the same thing. But when you try to instill that upon other people who are not your children and assume the role of moral watchdog to those who do not share your morals when it comes to questions that involve things that do no harm to other people, you cannot be surprised when you are called un-American for it.

It isn't your belief that traditional marriage is best and the Christian religion is correct that is un-American in so many eyes. It is your desire to legislate those beliefs upon people who do not share them.

Without a doubt nearly every two parent home is preferable to a single parent home.

Please give me the number of studies you need for me to back up this point. I'll be on travel next week and will need some time but go ahead and ask.

How about five independent scholarly studies related to the benefit of two-parent homes verses single parent homes? Five. Will that work?

Are both parents always better than one?

This paper suggests that its not just the structure of the family but also the dynamics of the family that contribute to the overall well being of a child.