Unemployment Benefits - Real Politics in Motion

@jackmcg Said

AP story on the President blaming Republicans for failure to extend unemployment benefits to the nation's unemployed.

https://apnews.myway.com/article/20100719/D9H225EG0.html

OK, the Democrats want to extend UB by simply having a vote and putting the action out there unfunded, adding to the already heavy federal debt.

The Republicans will not agree to this and want the UB extension paid for, many stating they would vote for passage if the Administration would allow Stimulus funds to be used.

Since the federal government has used over $20MM in Stimulus funds to pay for road signs that tell us they are using stimulus funds, why can't the Stimulus package be used to fund UB?

Nancy Pelosi, after all, recently stated that unemployment compensation was one of the greatest stimulus growers in the country. Yet, the Democrat congress people won't allow any remaining Stimulus money to be used for UB. What gives? A lot of money in that escrow account just sitting and waiting for what? Thoughts on this, anyone?

@Bill_Huggins Said

this congresses disregard of paying for things properly is troubling...

@aquine Said

The only humans who should be given money for nothing are those who are unable to earn it.

Those who are unwilling to work should starve to death.


Blessed be the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

@aquine Said

The only humans who should be given money for nothing are those who are unable to earn it.

Those who are unwilling to work should starve to death.


Blessed be the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

@Eastender Said

Christian compassion and charity at work, eh? Puritan 'work ethic' rules ok?! What a load of nonsense!

@someone_else Said

I actually thought that was a good system. Back when one could exist like that. Farmers would only go over their field once and whatever they missed could be harvested by the poor. If they wanted to eat, they worked for it.

That system doesn't work these days because not everybody is a farmer and they don't allow you to glean their fields anyway.

@Eastender Said

Yeah, but the basic attitude exists though doesnt it? Especially in 'right wing' groups and politics. The idea that charity is some sort of evil thing. Its just a hard uncaring attitude.

@someone_else Said

I've said lots of times that I don't follow politics so I can't really comment on that per se. I've never noticed anyone thinking that charity was an evil thing except proud people who didn't want it to help themselves.

I do have issues with some people on the welfare system just because they are content with just taking the help but not trying to get out of needing it. Only able bodied adults without dependents (ABAWD) are required to look for a job to be on welfare. There are some who just stay on it having child after child after child so there's no way they'll ever have to prove they have the need. That's a load of crap imo. If they couldn't afford to have the first one, why should we pay for them to have 3 more?

Unemployment is a different issue altogether. These people are genuinely looking for jobs that just aren't there.

Edit: another pointless post.

@Eastender Said

Christian compassion and charity at work, eh? Puritan 'work ethic' rules ok?! What a load of nonsense!

@aquine Said

Are you suggesting that those who are able, yet unwilling, to work should receive financial assistance from the public purse?

How extraordinary. I dare say, thou hast no understanding of charity, much less of sustainable economics.


Blessed be the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

@Eastender Said

Yes I am. Otherwise many would starve - or be forced to turn to crime.

When my ancestors lived in the slums of London, they had no choice but to do whatever they could to get money for food. The welfare state is better than returning to that, because there are rarely enough jobs for everyone. If you don't know that, then YOU are the one who needs the lesson in basic economic reality babe.