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shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#1New Post! Jun 14, 2014 @ 20:38:46
On May 27, 2014, the U.S. Supreme Court delivered a 5-4 decision in the case State of Michigan v. Bay Mills Indian Community. A five justice majority issued a ruling that works in favor of the Bay Mills Indian Community. While a great deal of commentary is likely to be focused in the majority decision, this column is about the dissent by justices, Thomas, Alito, Ginsburg, and Scalia, and their tacit acknowledgment that a system of domination has been and is still being used by the United States against our nations and peoples.
Read more at https://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/06/14/dangerous-dissent-state-michigan-v-bay-mills-indian-community
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Jun 14, 2014 @ 21:28:02
I don't know if that is good news for the working class members of the First Nation, but I sure hope so.
But the system we have here in the UK works in favour of the minority of wealthy people who own the all the land and resources against the majority who have to sell their labour (mental and or physical) to make a living.
I sure hope what ever happens in the future it benefits everyone.
But that is a seperate issue as this is a different kind of 'domination' and I'm not sure how to end that. but I sure hope this is a step forward to raising the standard of living for the first nation people as I'm for that.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#3New Post! Jun 14, 2014 @ 21:51:59
@yami Said

I don't know if that is good news for the working class members of the First Nation, but I sure hope so.
But the system we have here in the UK works in favour of the minority of wealthy people who own the all the land and resources against the majority who have to sell their labour (mental and or physical) to make a living.
I sure hope what ever happens in the future it benefits everyone.
But that is a seperate issue as this is a different kind of 'domination' and I'm not sure how to end that. but I sure hope this is a step forward to raising the standard of living for the first nation people as I'm for that.


True. "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss?"
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




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#4New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 01:16:36
chaski On April 19, 2024
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#5New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 01:22:14
@shinobinoz Said

...the dissent by justices, Thomas, Alito, Ginsburg, and Scalia,



Strange and interesting that Ginsburg sided with Scalia, Thomas and Alto on this issue...while Kennedy and Roberts did not.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#6New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 05:04:45
@chaski Said

Strange and interesting that Ginsburg sided with Scalia, Thomas and Alto on this issue...while Kennedy and Roberts did not.


Strange bedfellows indeed. Did not expect that too.
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#7New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 08:38:59
Absolutely, because if land & the means of production are taken from the 1% of whites and given to the 1% of the First nation people then it will be phyrric victory.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#8New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 14:39:49
@yami Said

Absolutely, because if land & the means of production are taken from the 1% of whites and given to the 1% of the First nation people then it will be phyrric victory.


Ah, we are doing that with our casino's!!!!
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#9New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 15:50:51
@shinobinoz Said

Ah, we are doing that with our casino's!!!!



Doing what?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#10New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 16:44:31
@yami Said

Doing what?


Winning back some hard lost land & freedoms. Unless you are speaking metaphorically about us being slaves & the loss of freedoms & community in which case I whole heartedly agree with you.
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 16:59:08
@shinobinoz Said

Winning back some hard lost land & freedoms. Unless you are speaking metaphorically about us being slaves & the loss of freedoms & community in which case I whole heartedly agree with you.



Fair enough but I'm not sure how gambling helps society. Or are the casino's workers co-ops, where every gets a share in the profits?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#12New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 17:03:22
@yami Said

Fair enough but I'm not sure how gambling helps society. Or are the casino's workers co-ops, where every gets a share in the profits?


Not sure about each Nation but generally that is the attempt. Gambling has ALWAYS been a part of our histories (I'm assuming prolly every culture as well). With little & no resources in many reservations this has been providing monies for infrastructure that is sorely lacking from promised Treaties. Some Nation's provide per caps from revenues others put it all back into the infrastructure.
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 17:06:59
@shinobinoz Said

Not sure about each Nation but generally that is the attempt. Gambling has ALWAYS been a part of our histories (I'm assuming prolly every culture as well). With little & no resources in many reservations this has been providing monies for infrastructure that is sorely lacking from promised Treaties. Some Nation's provide per caps from revenues others put it all back into the infrastructure.



I get that, but when you see the misery it causes, I understand that you can't ban it, that would be counter-productive. But dare I say it is a vice and what do you get back in return if you lose? Nothing.
At least with prostitution someone gets a good time out of it.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#14New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 17:10:13
@yami Said

I get that, but when you see the misery it causes, I understand that you can't ban it, that would be counter-productive. But dare I say it is a vice and what do you get back in return if you lose? Nothing.
At least with prostitution someone gets a good time out of it.


Someone always gets screwed (literally & figuratively). What are those Nation's to do that have NO OTHER resource? Keep in mind WE DID NOT ASK TO BE PUT ON RESERVATIONS.
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#15New Post! Jun 15, 2014 @ 17:11:28
@shinobinoz Said

Someone always gets screwed (literally & figuratively). What are those Nation's to do that have NO OTHER resource? Keep in mind WE DID NOT ASK TO BE PUT ON RESERVATIONS.



I get that, as Marx said "morality cannot be higher than economics allows".
In an ideal world there would not be any reservations.
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