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mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#121New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 00:40:33
@chaski Said

Personally, I think while that might have been the intent, to me the black man does not look like "he's pushing off" at all. If He was rising up, why wasn't he portrayed as being helped/lifted up by Lincoln... or actually standing up... kind of like "now you are an equal".



Or at least 3/5ths equal

(How did that work? it says the compromise wasn't repealed until a few years later)
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
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#122New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 02:20:46
@mrmhead Said

Or at least 3/5ths equal

(How did that work? it says the compromise wasn't repealed until a few years later)



Oddly enough the 3/5 thing wasn’t that the Black man was considered 3/5 of white people (they were considered 0/5 Of a person) but their owner could claim 3/5 of the slave population in the census when it came it deciding resources and voting population numbers for representation . The south was trying to get more “power” over the north, they never intended to give Black people (or women) voting rights.

Kind of now how the electoral college favors less populated states. Like farmland. — or the flyover states. Contempt for “New Yorkers” and them “skewing national elections” has been going on since the birth of the nation.

So even though the slaves were “free” they weren’t necessary citizens with full rights to vote until 1965.
The amendments gave some some rights in 1865-1870s but individual states could restrict it in ways that most Black people couldn’t qualify. Like the “grandfather clause”. Meaning your grandfather had to be registered before you could, but that wasn’t possible for most former slaves. Also because they could not register, it effectively disenfranchised their children and grandchildren, probably further generations unless they married into a family who could vote... but again most states also had laws against interracial marriages. So the children of a Black man and white woman could typically vote, and grand children of a white man and black woman.

So surprisingly (or not) the interracial relationship most offensive to the Klan is also the one that circumvents the laws to decrease the Black vote.

Suppressing the Black vote and white supremacy is a huge part of the foundations of our country.
dihctatr On November 06, 2020




Upland, California
#123New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 02:55:13
now blm wants punishment for looters removed=amnesty for looters\
good or bad?
chaski On April 19, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#124New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 04:20:03
Honestly, I am having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say... what your point is.
dihctatr On November 06, 2020




Upland, California
#125New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 05:15:11
hoax
george floyd died years ago\
no police vid of the arrest to be found\
trump dead\
no vid statement from trump on all these riots=los angeles,CHOP,ny CHAZ,stone mountain\



wow you refuse to approve punishment for looters...\get visit from mib
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#126New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 08:32:39
@chaski Said

Honest Abe the Statue, I freed you, but you need to stay down there boy.

Lowly black man, Ya'sa mas'sa Lincoln... I promise'n to be a good boy and stay in my place..




To be fair, the argument is that the black man, former slave, "...is not kneeling on two knees. He's rising. You look at his hands. His hands - he's pushing off. He's not shackled to anyone. He's holding the broken chains of slavery in his hands, signifying he's assuming his rightful place in freedom.

Personally, I think while that might have been the intent, to me the black man does not look like "he's pushing off" at all. If He was rising up, why wasn't he portrayed as being helped/lifted up by Lincoln... or actually standing up... kind of like "now you are an equal".

To me he looks like he is crouching down under Lincoln's hand, i.e. the older wiser white man.


But hey.... beauty is in the eye of the beholder... and as we all know, kneeling is a sign of disrespect...



I've never seen that statue before and for the life of me I can't see how the sculptor could possibly think that represents anything liberating, or even paternalistic in it.

It really does convey the impression of a man kneeling before his master. A gross mis-representation and I'm surprised it's never been removed before.

One presumes it was created after Lincoln's assassination. Had it been erected before his death I'm sure he'd have objected to this being a part of his legacy.

I think a statue with the freed man standing.... properly clothed and looking healthy, shaking hands with the president.... or something along those lines.... would have created the impression of the freed slave finally achieving dignity and liberty.

Poor statue in my opinion. It's not my place to tell Americans how to represent their history, but if it were here, I'd say it had to go.
dihctatr On November 06, 2020




Upland, California
#127New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 04:03:45
Quote:
Retreat. Retreat Retreat Retreat


SEE our fireworks
https://yourdictatorshe.blogspot.com/


slavery never been abolishd\
dihctatr On November 06, 2020




Upland, California
#128New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 04:24:56
the masses been doin' a thing
Video shows moments leading up to protester hit by car
The driver should be charged for not running all of them over.
The driver deserves to have a statue built in her honor.
I would charge them all with assault. The last guy gets charged with somersault.
It should read protestor damages car.
Guess she wasn't driving a dodge. Would have been better if it was a ram
I give him a 10 for the flip.
She missed way too many of them. I would have turned around and tried again.
That flying dude should be charged with aggravated somersault! 🤣
gakINGKONG On October 18, 2022




, Florida
#129New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 12:45:53
2006 Public funding of controversial art. Yes, in this age of Obama we must protect freedom of expression

Controversial Art is important as long as everyone likes it, or whatever

2020 Public funding of controversial art. No!.... in this age of Trump we must tear down this expression!
chaski On April 19, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#130New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 18:40:17
@gakINGKONG Said

2006 Public funding of controversial art. Yes, in this age of Bush .


Fixed that for you.

George W. Bush >>> President of the USA January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009 .

Apparently we have a case of Obama Derangement Syndrome coupled with Trump Demential Syndrome.

dihctatr On November 06, 2020




Upland, California
#131New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 20:06:35
in this age of Obama
he funded all museums aka free palaces holding nudieshows\
cost exceed 500000d /month so staff gets their mansions just for directing moppers\
obama then went to his 5 castles for his majesty\

shock! politicians only care for wealth grabbing\
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#132New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 23:11:54
in this age of trump
he funds all his favorite companies with tariffs and rolling back regulations
and then trying to orchestrate give-aways with no oversight.
we won't see the real cost for years in the healthcare system ... what's left of it.
dihctatr On November 06, 2020




Upland, California
#133New Post! Jul 10, 2020 @ 01:14:22
take a morals 101 class u shameless greedbags\

trump's sinning don't remove guilt of obama's thievery on the grand scale\
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#134New Post! Jul 10, 2020 @ 01:20:25
@dihctatr Said

take a morals 101 class u shameless greedbags\

trump's sinning don't remove guilt of obama's thievery on the grand scale\



So you admit Trump is sinning ...
dihctatr On November 06, 2020




Upland, California
#135New Post! Jul 10, 2020 @ 04:37:28
So you admit u shameless greedbags
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