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sirkewl On July 25, 2009




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#16New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:18:32
Sounds like a bunch of people are stretching the facts and are not open to reality to me.

Life can not come from something that is not living. I'm going to teach my children that, taking special attention to show them what cell theory says, and then say, and then a bunch of people years later decided that because they were uncomfortable with the idea of God, that they would say that not all cells come from pre-existing cells, and that cells can spontaneously happen over millions of years, just because they don't like the idea that only life can create life, because that would mean the first life was created by a living entity, God!

And that is one of the reasons why belief in God will never disappear, and why people will always disagree with each other on the genesis of life, because nobody has every produced a fully functional cell through non-biological atoms in a lab, and nobody knows how and why the first cell formed that was capable of reproduction, so if you lack evidence, as I lack evidence, at least mine has a logical idea to it, life created life, and the idea life can be created from non-life is ridiculous to me. Might as well say we're made from fire, earth, wind, and water, like the ancients pagans say.
soypuke On May 13, 2009

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#17New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:21:29
You dont even have proof god exists and you make fun of atheists?

What makes you so sure that it was god? Maybe it was a flying spaghetti monster?
Asme251 On December 21, 2017
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#18New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:27:31
@sirkewl Said

Sounds like a bunch of people are stretching the facts and are not open to reality to me.

Life can not come from something that is not living. I'm going to teach my children that, taking special attention to show them what cell theory says, and then say, and then a bunch of people years later decided that because they were uncomfortable with the idea of God, that they would say that not all cells come from pre-existing cells, and that cells can spontaneously happen over millions of years, just because they don't like the idea that only life can create life, because that would mean the first life was created by a living entity, God!



What? Have you not read what Alexkid wrote?

DNA can be created from non living materials. The experiment that Alex mentioned showed that. Plus, all living cells are made up of non-living materials. So life has to come from non-living sources. There is nothing to suggest the spontaneous appearance of cells.
Here is the experiment:
https://www.juliantrubin.com/bigten/miller_urey_experiment.html
sirkewl On July 25, 2009




None of your business, Canada
#19New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:30:37
@soypuke Said

You dont even have proof god exists and you make fun of atheists?

What makes you so sure that it was god? Maybe it was a flying spaghetti monster?


LOL!

Honestly, it's illogical that life can come from non-life.

The first life came from something living. This trying to discover how life was created from non-life is ridiculous and just plain wrong.

What makes me sure it was God, I'm living here, right now, breathing. And since life only comes from other living things, I know that it was God, because only the uncaused cause of the universe can be the uncaused cause of life, and only life can create life, and since only something outside of time-space can be an uncaused cause, and that uncaused cause created life, that uncaused cause is life. So by definition, anything that exists outside time-space, that is living, would be God, because anything living able to create a universe and then life in that universe would be omni-potent, omni-sceince, and omni-present, and therefore the definition of God!

It is completely logical, and to me, the one and only way life can form, because it goes against all biological knowledge that life can come from non-life. And I will teach my children to see through the lies of Abiogenesis, and they will laugh at it as fairytales like I do, because life can not come from non-life!

So, I still want you guys to tell me why Abiogenesis, life coming from non-life, is a relevant science when it compares to Cell Theory, that states all cells come from pre-existing cells. I guess you guys need to append that, to fit Abiogenesis. . .

Oh wait, nobody has shown that cells can form yet, because it has never happened in a lab yet, and never will!
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#20New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:31:36
@sirkewl Said
Life can not come from something that is not living. I'm going to teach my children that


You might want to hold off teaching your kids that, because it's not true.

It's quite possible to actually assemble life from constituent elements in a lab.
sirkewl On July 25, 2009




None of your business, Canada
#21New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:31:51
@Asme251 Said

What? Have you not read what Alexkid wrote?

DNA can be created from non living materials. The experiment that Alex mentioned showed that. Plus, all living cells are made up of non-living materials. So life has to come from non-living sources. There is nothing to suggest the spontaneous appearance of cells.
Here is the experiment:
https://www.juliantrubin.com/bigten/miller_urey_experiment.html


What part of Fairy tales do you not understand. . .

Life can not happen from non-life, period, end of story!

Keep telling yourselves that!
sirkewl On July 25, 2009




None of your business, Canada
#22New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:32:21
@jonnythan Said

You might want to hold off teaching your kids that, because it's probably not true.


Prove to me that life can come from non-life.
soypuke On May 13, 2009

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#23New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:33:01
@sirkewl Said

LOL!

Honestly, it's illogical that life can come from non-life.

The first life came from something living. This trying to discover how life was created from non-life is ridiculous and just plain wrong.

What makes me sure it was God, I'm living here, right now, breathing. And since life only comes from other living things, I know that it was God, because only the uncaused cause of the universe can be the uncaused cause of life, and only life can create life, and since only something outside of time-space can be an uncaused cause, and that uncaused cause created life, that uncaused cause is life. So by definition, anything that exists outside time-space, that is living, would be God, because anything living able to create a universe and then life in that universe would be omni-potent, omni-sceince, and omni-present, and therefore the definition of God!

It is completely logical, and to me, the one and only way life can form, because it goes against all biological knowledge that life can come from non-life. And I will teach my children to see through the lies of Abiogenesis, and they will laugh at it as fairytales like I do, because life can not come from non-life!

So, I still want you guys to tell me why Abiogenesis, life coming from non-life, is a relevant science when it compares to Cell Theory, that states all cells come from pre-existing cells. I guess you guys need to append that, to fit Abiogenesis. . .

Oh wait, nobody has shown that cells can form yet, because it has never happened in a lab yet, and never will!


Have you even been reading the articles and posts from alexkidd and asme?

You claim to want to know the truth, but thats ironic of you, you dont even want to try to learn.
sirkewl On July 25, 2009




None of your business, Canada
#24New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:34:22
@soypuke Said

Have you even been reading the articles and posts from alexkidd and asme?

You claim to want to know the truth, but thats ironic of you, you dont even want to try to learn.


LOL!

All I need to know is cell theory.

All cells come from pre-existing cells.

Nothing can sway me from the truth. Life came from the Ultimate form of life, God.
Asme251 On December 21, 2017
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Boston, Massachusetts
#25New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:34:31
@sirkewl Said

What part of Fairy tales do you not understand. . .

Life can not happen from non-life, period, end of story!

Keep telling yourselves that!


Please read the link first. Then come argue your point.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#26New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:35:16
@sirkewl Said

Prove to me that life can come from non-life.


What do you think would happen if a researcher assembled a strand of DNA that is an exact copy of your own, then assembled a cell from all the necessary molecules, and gave it a growth medium?

It would grow. It would live.
Asme251 On December 21, 2017
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Boston, Massachusetts
#27New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:35:20
@sirkewl Said

LOL!

All I need to know is cell theory.

All cells come from pre-existing cells.

Nothing can sway me from the truth. Life came from the Ultimate form of life, God.



Ok. If you're not willing to look at other evidence, then stop arguing, because this is getting nowhere.
soypuke On May 13, 2009

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#28New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:36:33
@sirkewl Said

LOL!

All I need to know is cell theory.

All cells come from pre-existing cells.

Nothing can sway me from the truth. Life came from the Ultimate form of life, God.


Like i said, you dont want to learn.
sirkewl On July 25, 2009




None of your business, Canada
#29New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:42:31
First, there are some objections made there, like it could have taken 100 million years for those reactions to occur.

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Another objection is that Miller-Urey Experiment required a tremendous amount of energy. Although lightning storms are thought to have been very common in the primordial atmosphere, they are not thought to have been as common as the amount of electricity used by the Miller-Urey experiment implied. These factors suggest that much lower concentrations of biochemicals would have been produced on Earth than was originally predicted (although the time scale would be 100 million years instead of a week).
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No, I will raise my children to know and understand the truth, and see through lies told by people.

Heck, you guys probably believe economists when they say the economy is growing. . .
windstorm On June 28, 2012




Birmingham, Alabama
#30New Post! Apr 20, 2009 @ 02:45:44
And the debate continues...
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