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someone_else On August 30, 2012
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American Alps, Washington
#61New Post! Jul 30, 2012 @ 18:47:24
@wirelessguru1 Said

Explaining "code" to a fanatic (any particular fanatic) is not necessarily the easiest thing...



Not easy to explain to the simple either. Fortunately, I am simple. I figure if I get it, anybody will.
wirelessguru1 On November 01, 2018




Somewhere in, California
#62New Post! Jul 30, 2012 @ 18:49:19
@someone_else Said

Not easy to explain to the simple either. Fortunately, I am simple. I figure if I get it, anybody will.


That is a HUGE assumption...
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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American Alps, Washington
#63New Post! Jul 30, 2012 @ 18:51:52
@wirelessguru1 Said

That is a HUGE assumption...



Are you calling me fat?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#64New Post! Jul 31, 2012 @ 02:29:57
@someone_else Said

Off-topic advice: The strike-through is done the same way as bold, italic and/or underline. Just use an s in the code.


Thanks!
El_Tino On October 12, 2023
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Albuquerque, New Mexico
#65New Post! Aug 02, 2012 @ 07:17:50
I've highlighted some parts so that those who normally only understand 1 word at a time can comprehend better.

"Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business–you didn't build that."

that refers to this unbelievable American system.
ThePainefulTruth On May 06, 2013
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Peoria, Arizona
#66New Post! Aug 04, 2012 @ 04:35:19
@El_Tino Said

If he were talking about the business he would have said "it".



@El_Tino Said

I've highlighted some parts so that those who normally only understand 1 word at a time can comprehend better.

"Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business–you didn't build that."

that refers to this unbelievable American system.


So you're saying that Oby is actually arguing FOR American capitalism , which is enough of an enormous stretch right there. Then there's all the different types of words which "that" is, pronoun (2), adverb, adjective, conjunction, noun and verb.

The test is to put the phrase you say it represents in the sentence and see what happens: "If you've got a business-you didn't build [this unbelievable American system]". That does not follow--it's a non-sequitur. Who says they didn't participate physically. In any case, who did build this unbelievable system? Is manual labor the only form of contribution?

And who are the somebodies who "invested in the roads and bridges"? Don't businesses and capitalists pay the lion's share of taxes to "invest" in them, and pay the employees, SOME of whom also pay taxes.

And finally, why doesn't the White House say what you did? I'll tell you, because his base would turn on him for selling out that hallowed "labor built everything and therefore owns everything" socialist/communist principle. The syntax is so nebulous you could play with pronouns (by design) until you had him saying he'd throw his own grandmother under the bus....which.... .
El_Tino On October 12, 2023
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Albuquerque, New Mexico
#67New Post! Aug 04, 2012 @ 07:21:08
@ThePainefulTruth Said

So you're saying that Oby is actually arguing FOR American capitalism , which is enough of an enormous stretch right there. Then there's all the different types of words which "that" is, pronoun (2), adverb, adjective, conjunction, noun and verb.

The test is to put the phrase you say it represents in the sentence and see what happens: "If you've got a business-you didn't build [this unbelievable American system]". That does not follow--it's a non-sequitur. Who says they didn't participate physically. In any case, who did build this unbelievable system? Is manual labor the only form of contribution?

And who are the somebodies who "invested in the roads and bridges"? Don't businesses and capitalists pay the lion's share of taxes to "invest" in them, and pay the employees, SOME of whom also pay taxes.

And finally, why doesn't the White House say what you did? I'll tell you, because his base would turn on him for selling out that hallowed "labor built everything and therefore owns everything" socialist/communist principle. The syntax is so nebulous you could play with pronouns (by design) until you had him saying he'd throw his own grandmother under the bus....which.... .



1) A non-sequitor is when the conclusion doesn't follow from the premises.
2) Did you fail the reading comprehension part of the SATs?
3) The interstate highways were/are basically a government giveaway to the trucking companies, and by extension companies that sell stuff shipped on trucks. Of course they should pay more for it.
4) Your socialist conspiracies are hilarious.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#68New Post! Aug 04, 2012 @ 17:01:53
@El_Tino Said

1) A non-sequitor is when the conclusion doesn't follow from the premises.
2) Did you fail the reading comprehension part of the SATs?
3) The interstate highways were/are basically a government giveaway to the trucking companies, and by extension companies that sell stuff shipped on trucks. Of course they should pay more for it.
4) Your socialist conspiracies are hilarious.


Now El Tino- don't go busting his bubble. He want's to believe in that giant carrot on the end of that short stick in front of him- let him.

We all know that the rich are only rich because they are the most honest, hard working, best tax paying american's out there and every single one of them came from adversity and every single one of them pulled themselves up by their own boot-straps without a single bit of help from anyone including the government.
ThePainefulTruth On May 06, 2013
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Peoria, Arizona
#69New Post! Aug 04, 2012 @ 22:18:36
@El_Tino Said

1) A non-sequitor is when the conclusion doesn't follow from the premises.


Exactly! But the rest of your "points" are unresponsive. Experimenting with something other than misdirection is we?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#70New Post! Aug 04, 2012 @ 23:42:08
@ThePainefulTruth Said

Exactly! But the rest of your "points" are unresponsive. Experimenting with something other than misdirection is we?


and 2,3,&4?
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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American Alps, Washington
#71New Post! Aug 06, 2012 @ 17:45:22
The way that I understood the quote was that there was an implication left off. I surmised this from the context, being that we have this great system in place that allows us more accessibility to do things like owning our own businesses.

If you own a business - you didn't build that (all by yourself. Other people paved the way for you by creating lending institutions, cities, transportation and shipping to keep you connected, etc, etc, etc.)

I have no idea why this has become such a great big freaking deal. Oh wait, yes I do. People have a problem with the guy so they take every single thing he says and make it look like he meant something totally different.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#72New Post! Aug 06, 2012 @ 17:54:47
@someone_else Said

The way that I understood the quote was that there was an implication left off. I surmised this from the context, being that we have this great system in place that allows us more accessibility to do things like owning our own businesses.

If you own a business - you didn't build that (all by yourself. Other people paved the way for you by creating lending institutions, cities, transportation and shipping to keep you connected, etc, etc, etc.)

I have no idea why this has become such a great big freaking deal. Oh wait, yes I do. People have a problem with the guy so they take every single thing he says and make it look like he meant something totally different.


Sadly, you are right about it.
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