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GreatestIam2 On about 4 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#1New Post! May 16, 2020 @ 13:44:39
God given rights. Do you really have any?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

When a right is given to us by governments, they assume and have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. If governments do not accept and do this enforcement duty, then citizens have a corrupted government.

If a right is given to a soul, by god, he would have a duty to ensure that they are never taken from us. The fact that they often are, indicates that he is shirking his duty.

To me, rights are like laws, completely useless and worthless unless they can be enforced by a given power when they are breached.

Do you have any real god given rights, or are god given rights just a feel-good lie that we tell ourselves we have so as to ignore that we have none?

Regards
DL
Electric_Banana On September 18, 2020




, New Zealand
#2New Post! May 21, 2020 @ 10:36:51
God has given us no clear or direct instructions

All we know is that it hurts very much when we attempt something that might kill us..

..like holding back a poop, not sleeping, not eating.

So the unspoken law is that we should have freedom to perform that which will prevent us from suffering or dying and any who would stand in our way would be legally eligible for terminating.

As for any laws that could be directly and coherently passed onto us by our hosts, whom have us captured in this existence, I would seriously question who they are and their ultimate agenda.

In example we don't have any proof that the true year isn't 4020 and this is a virtual simulation used to reprogram rebels insurgent to do an undesirable, dystopian dictatorship taking place in a true, external world.

Here in the broken world is intended as a bait and switch to chase participants into the hands of the church who then proceed with said brainwashing.
GreatestIam2 On about 4 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#3New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 17:46:08
@Electric_Banana Said

God has given us no clear or direct instructions


The 10 commandments, all three sets in the bible, are fairly clear.

They are a part of the brainwashing from lying preachers.

I really dislike the first commandment. Place no other god before me, a genocidal and infanticidal god.

Regards
DL
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#4New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 19:25:33
@GreatestIam2 Said


Place no other god before me



Seems to suggest that there is more than one god.


IF there was only one god, the commandment would read:

>>> I am the only god, so don't worship other gods as they are fake and can't help you, and the act of worshiping fake stuff is stupid and might piss me off to the point of punishing your stupidity. <<<

Or something like that.

Electric_Banana On September 18, 2020




, New Zealand
#5New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 22:34:40
@GreatestIam2 Said

The 10 commandments, all three sets in the bible, are fairly clear.

They are a part of the brainwashing from lying preachers.

I really dislike the first commandment. Place no other god before me, a genocidal and infanticidal god.

Regards
DL



Depending on denomination does that list change?

The bible I had as a kid...I don't remember that commandment; I've always remembered the ten commandments being common sense and easily agreed upon like 'Though shall not murder'
farmerdon On May 30, 2020




Harrison, Arkansas
#6New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 23:36:13
if you have to ask for rights , you don't have any. take your rights for yourself and defend them with your life.
GreatestIam2 On about 4 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#7New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 14:25:54
@chaski Said

Seems to suggest that there is more than one god.


IF there was only one god, the commandment would read:

>>> I am the only god, so don't worship other gods as they are fake and can't help you, and the act of worshiping fake stuff is stupid and might piss me off to the point of punishing your stupidity. <<<

Or something like that.



There are many gods. We create them as required.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On about 4 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#8New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 14:31:11
@Electric_Banana Said

Depending on denomination does that list change?

The bible I had as a kid...I don't remember that commandment; I've always remembered the ten commandments being common sense and easily agreed upon like 'Though shall not murder'


I do not know if the list changes or not and I do not have the time to check in all of the, what, 3,000 various denominations?

I think the commandment says kill. Many have substituted murder for kill.

It is not common sense to follow the commandments of a genocidal and infanticidal garbage god like Yahweh, nor follow his homophobic and misogynous religion that thinks women are chattel.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On about 4 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#9New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 14:32:55
@farmerdon Said

if you have to ask for rights , you don't have any. take your rights for yourself and defend them with your life.


Rights are collective. If you are not ready to fight for your neighbors rights, you should not expect that he will help you fight for your own.

Regards
DL
Electric_Banana On September 18, 2020




, New Zealand
#10New Post! Jun 08, 2020 @ 15:49:34
@GreatestIam2 Said

I do not know if the list changes or not and I do not have the time to check in all of the, what, 3,000 various denominations?

I think the commandment says kill. Many have substituted murder for kill.

It is not common sense to follow the commandments of a genocidal and infanticidal garbage god like Yahweh, nor follow his homophobic and misogynous religion that thinks women are chattel.

Regards
DL



Yeah, that's where my Hitler example comes into play again.
(or we could even interject Jim Jones)

A lot of people out there are very good with words and will have some great insights to share but it doesn't mean they know all nor does it mean that everything presented from them is going to be sound.
Jennifer1984 On about 13 hours ago
Returner and proud





Penzance, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Jun 08, 2020 @ 17:50:41
@GreatestIam2 Said

God given rights. Do you really have any?




Being a very lapsed Catholic and having no belief in the existence of God, it's not really possible for him / her to have given me any rights.

Those rights that I have are ones that have had to be hard fought for. We haven't been given any rights, we've earned them. We've paid for them in blood, sweat and tears.

Our martyrs aren't biblical, they were very real people. They took the hits of oppression, brutality and discrimination and they set those of us today the example that standing up to oppressors, and being prepared to make sacrifices in the real world is the only way.
GreatestIam2 On about 4 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#12New Post! Jun 08, 2020 @ 20:21:35
@Electric_Banana Said

Yeah, that's where my Hitler example comes into play again.
(or we could even interject Jim Jones)

A lot of people out there are very good with words and will have some great insights to share but it doesn't mean they know all nor does it mean that everything presented from them is going to be sound.


All true buddy.

Too bad they do not have their own Ted talk type of platform.

How is your I T?

I am computer stupid.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On about 4 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#13New Post! Jun 08, 2020 @ 20:23:55
@Jennifer1984 Said

Being a very lapsed Catholic and having no belief in the existence of God, it's not really possible for him / her to have given me any rights.

Those rights that I have are ones that have had to be hard fought for. We haven't been given any rights, we've earned them. We've paid for them in blood, sweat and tears.

Our martyrs aren't biblical, they were very real people. They took the hits of oppression, brutality and discrimination and they set those of us today the example that standing up to oppressors, and being prepared to make sacrifices in the real world is the only way.


I agree and hope the riots and looting are the tip of the iceberg.

Regards
DL
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#14New Post! Jun 08, 2020 @ 20:40:07
I'm thinking that god should have given us a list of our "God given rights"... from the very beginning.

God: "Ok... Adam & Eve! Listen up."

Adam and Eve stop making whoopee behind the "tree", and jump to attention: "Yes Father!?"

God: "1st, I've just given you the ability to read. However, you are responsible for teaching your children how to read from now on."

Adam: "What are "children"?"

Eve: "Hush honey... I'll explain al that later."

God: "2nd, I have written down two... 2... sets of things for you.

A) Your "God given rights". All of humanity.... EVERY SINGLE HUMAN... gets these rights... So let it be written, read and done.

Next...

B) The Ten...10... Commandments. These are the basic rules. I expect you to follow these rules.

If you don't follow these rules you are going to be in a lot of trouble with me.

I have this buddy of mine, Lucifer... he also goes by the name Satan... he's my man man... kind of a Samuel L. Jackson bad-ass dude. He takes care of "business" for me... the "dirty work" one might say... you don't want to get on his bad side. I'm actually pretty forgiving, but he isn't... and I've given him a lot of responsibility and latitude when it comes to doing his job.

Got it?"

Adam: "I'm not sure."

God... sighs: "Ok pay attention... I've just created a really cool fruit tree. Its fruit tastes a bit bitter, but it is important. I call the fruit 'the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". You and Eve are going to have to eat this fruit. In fact, your going to have to grow lots of this fruit and share it with all of humanity... like forever... so they get "it"... fully understand their rights and the rules. Got it?"

Adam: "I think so."

God: "Eve... your going to need to help me with Adam. I know it is going to be a big challenge, but I know you can do it... Adam is a bit slow... Can you look after him for me?"

Eve: "Yes Sir... I'm on it."

God: "Good."

Adam:


And the rest is history....
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#15New Post! Jun 08, 2020 @ 21:00:52
@chaski Said

I'm thinking that god should have given us a list of our "God given rights"... from the very beginning.

God: "Ok... Adam & Eve! Listen up."

Adam and Eve stop making whoopee behind the "tree", and jump to attention: "Yes Father!?"

God: "1st, I've just given you the ability to read. However, you are responsible for teaching your children how to read from now on."

Adam: "What are "children"?"

Eve: "Hush honey... I'll explain al that later."

God: "2nd, I have written down two... 2... sets of things for you.

A) Your "God given rights". All of humanity.... EVERY SINGLE HUMAN... gets these rights... So let it be written, read and done.

Next...

B) The Ten...10... Commandments. These are the basic rules. I expect you to follow these rules.

If you don't follow these rules you are going to be in a lot of trouble with me.

I have this buddy of mine, Lucifer... he also goes by the name Satan... he's my man man... kind of a Samuel L. Jackson bad-ass dude. He takes care of "business" for me... the "dirty work" one might say... you don't want to get on his bad side. I'm actually pretty forgiving, but he isn't... and I've given him a lot of responsibility and latitude when it comes to doing his job.

Got it?"

Adam: "I'm not sure."

God... sighs: "Ok pay attention... I've just created a really cool fruit tree. Its fruit tastes a bit bitter, but it is important. I call the fruit 'the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". You and Eve are going to have to eat this fruit. In fact, your going to have to grow lots of this fruit and share it with all of humanity... like forever... so they get "it"... fully understand their rights and the rules. Got it?"

Adam: "I think so."

God: "Eve... your going to need to help me with Adam. I know it is going to be a big challenge, but I know you can do it... Adam is a bit slow... Can you look after him for me?"

Eve: "Yes Sir... I'm on it."

God: "Good."

Adam:


And the rest is history....



PS...

God: "Oh... and Adam... Eve... if you take these "god given rights" and the "ten commandments"... i.e. the rules ... and make them all complicated and have to hire a bunch of attorneys to figure out the mess you've created... don't come praying to me... I am not going to fix your stupid s***."

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