Are Republicans Good For The Middle Class?

@drman321 Said

That doesn't answer the question at all.

The question is "How exactly are Republicans good for the middle class?"

Am I to take your non answer to translate as "they aren't"?

@USAFPSPRET Said

Your reactions are probably why many conservatives disengage with those more to the left. You want specific answers and/or proof to a very smoky question. Nothing I provide will convince anyone holding another ideological view. Its a road to nowhere.

Some in the Middle Class will benefit in some way from the Republicans. Some from the Democrats. The Middle Class has many sub-divisions regarding condition and income coupled to individual moral and ideological beliefs. As a whole, the Middle Class won't likely benefit from the Republicans or the Democrats. It is a matter of doing the best one can do under conditions that exist.

Your question cannot be answered as posed. I could ask the same question regarding the Democrats and would receive much the same reaction from those leaning right.

Both of you believe what you believe based on whatever experiences you've had. How do you suppose the Middle Class would benefit from the Democrats? You could provide an answer and I can find something somewhere to counter it. So, if you deem my response a non-answer, so be it.

@USAFPSPRET Said

Your reactions are probably why many conservatives disengage with those more to the left. You want specific answers and/or proof to a very smoky question. Nothing I provide will convince anyone holding another ideological view. Its a road to nowhere.

Some in the Middle Class will benefit in some way from the Republicans. Some from the Democrats. The Middle Class has many sub-divisions regarding condition and income coupled to individual moral and ideological beliefs. As a whole, the Middle Class won't likely benefit from the Republicans or the Democrats. It is a matter of doing the best one can do under conditions that exist.

Your question cannot be answered as posed. I could ask the same question regarding the Democrats and would receive much the same reaction from those leaning right.

Both of you believe what you believe based on whatever experiences you've had. How do you suppose the Middle Class would benefit from the Democrats? You could provide an answer and I can find something somewhere to counter it. So, if you deem my response a non-answer, so be it.

@drman321 Said

I ask the question because from where I am sitting the Republican economic plan appears to be "f*** the middle class, give me my tax cuts".

I will settle for ANYTHING. Anything at all that the Republicans are proposing that will help the middle class. That isn't nebulous, that is what we call a "low bar". Can you get over it?

@USAFPSPRET Said

Your reactions are probably why many conservatives disengage with those more to the left. You want specific answers and/or proof to a very smoky question. Nothing I provide will convince anyone holding another ideological view. Its a road to nowhere.

Some in the Middle Class will benefit in some way from the Republicans. Some from the Democrats. The Middle Class has many sub-divisions regarding condition and income coupled to individual moral and ideological beliefs. As a whole, the Middle Class won't likely benefit from the Republicans or the Democrats. It is a matter of doing the best one can do under conditions that exist.

Your question cannot be answered as posed. I could ask the same question regarding the Democrats and would receive much the same reaction from those leaning right.

Both of you believe what you believe based on whatever experiences you've had. How do you suppose the Middle Class would benefit from the Democrats? You could provide an answer and I can find something somewhere to counter it. So, if you deem my response a non-answer, so be it.

@drman321 Said

I ask the question because from where I am sitting the Republican economic plan appears to be "f*** the middle class, give me my tax cuts".

I will settle for ANYTHING. Anything at all that the Republicans are proposing that will help the middle class. That isn't nebulous, that is what we call a "low bar". Can you get over it?

@USAFPSPRET Said

Might as well let the GOP answer this question for themselves. Here's a link to their 2012 platform on economy and jobs. https://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_Restoring/ Could be a new information source for many of you and it seems to answer the OP's question.

@USAFPSPRET Said

Thank you to those with such insight in their responses to help me see the error of my responses and beliefs.

In any case, for many of us, there is no reason to re-elect the current President and many other politicians, whether local/state/federal. Obama was quite correct in saying change was needed in his 2008 campaign. However, the change needed is for the American voter to realize all the long-term professional politicians should be shown the door and put to pasture. Change doesn't come from keeping the same old guard in place for decades in either party.

Einstein is attributed the quote: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again, and expecting different results". The re-election of Obama and his doubling down on his stated programs are some of the things that fits in this category for me.

Might as well let the GOP answer this question for themselves. Here's a link to their 2012 platform on economy and jobs. https://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_Restoring/ Could be a new information source for many of you and it seems to answer the OP's question. Of course, partisanship will be the normal reaction to this, as evidenced in previous responses. Sadly, this takes us back to Einstein's statement.

@boxerdc Said

This is pretty much the same information as the Democrats platform on the economy and jobs..

They just have a idea about how they're going to make it happen, and I don't see the numbers add up with their idea.

@drman321 Said

I'm sorry but the choice isn't between Obama and "Not Obama". The choice is between Obama and Romney.

Obama has proposed several plans that are good for the middle class. Most notable he has proposed extending tax cuts for the middle class.

Romney on the other hand wants to raise taxes on the middle class.

How is a tax increase good for the middle class?

@USAFPSPRET Said

We can only cast our vote for the candidate we believe will best serve the nation. Romney says he is not raising taxes on the middle class. You don't believe him and claim his numbers back up your opinion. I believe Romney more than I now believe Obama and so that influences my vote. Romney provided more detail today on his campaign position regarding reducing taxes on the middle class and improving the business climate. He provides information from several economists associated with credible universities, media and other groups. You can find the article in today's San Francisco Gate.

Quote:
Romney proposes a 20 percent across-the-board reduction of income tax rates but also aims to maintain current levels of tax revenue. He has not described in detail how he plans to accomplish both goals, except to say that he will broaden the tax base and close unidentified loopholes.

Without specifics, analysts at the independent Tax Policy Center filled in the blanks and last month produced a highly publicized study that concluded the loss of tax receipts would be so great, Romney would have to close a host of tax deductions enjoyed by middle-class Americans. Those taxpayers would suffer a net increase even as wealthy Americans watch their tax bills go down, the analysts said.

@drman321 Said

Where has Romney said his plan won't raises taxes on the middle class? Link please.

It is pretty well documented that his plan would be a huge tax giveaway for the wealthy and a tax increase for the middle class.



https://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/09/09/mitt-romney-pledges-hold-down-taxes-middle-class-keep-popular-provisions-health-care-law-aims-repeal/msc1NAqOYyzDOCMV36J2PO/story.html

@drman321 Said

Where has Romney said his plan won't raises taxes on the middle class? Link please.

It is pretty well documented that his plan would be a huge tax giveaway for the wealthy and a tax increase for the middle class.



https://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/09/09/mitt-romney-pledges-hold-down-taxes-middle-class-keep-popular-provisions-health-care-law-aims-repeal/msc1NAqOYyzDOCMV36J2PO/story.html

@USAFPSPRET Said

Earlier in our discussion, I mentioned any of us could produce information to mitigate that produced by a person with the opposite argument. I'm not trying to change your vote or opinion. Election day will be the ultimate poll, and January 20, 2013 will tell more of the tale for all of us.

If Obama wins, I'll accept it and do the best I can in regard to the conditions presented by his administration over the coming 4 years. If Romney wins, I'll be a bit more optimistic and will do the best I can in regard to the conditions presented by his administration over the coming 4 years.

@drman321 Said

I ask the question because from where I am sitting the Republican economic plan appears to be "f*** the middle class, give me my tax cuts".