Who was correct, Jews or Christians? Was Eden our elevation or our fall?

Willi

northinmind,

#46

Jan 04, 2014 @ 18:13:59

@GreatestIam2 Said

Oops. Lost me here.

Did not want what?

Regards
DL

i claim, we were once not in the flesh, on this planet.
we wanted this.
God just gave us what we wanted.
if we get tired of what we wanted, there are other realities.
realities? i know, i know.

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GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#47

Jan 04, 2014 @ 18:15:52

@Willi Said

i claim, we were once not in the flesh, on this planet.
we wanted this.
God just gave us what we wanted.
if we get tired of what we wanted, there are other realities.
realities? i know, i know.

Wow.

I offer my sympathies.

Regards
DL

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Willi

northinmind,

#48

Jan 04, 2014 @ 18:17:38

@GreatestIam2 Said

Wow.

I offer my sympathies.

Regards
DL

why?

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GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#49

Jan 04, 2014 @ 18:26:58

@Willi Said

why?

Because you have nothing to show the veracity of your claim thus showing it is based on delusion.

Regards
DL

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Willi

northinmind,

#50

Jan 04, 2014 @ 18:30:45

@GreatestIam2 Said

Because you have nothing to show the veracity of your claim

you just defined faith.

i live.
you live better some how?

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Edited: January 04, 2014 @ 18:31

Willi

northinmind,

#51

Jan 04, 2014 @ 18:54:00

Was Eden our elevation or our fall?

why up or down?

if i give you what you wanted.
what have i done to you?

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Eaglebauer

Moderator
Deleted

Saint Louis, Missouri

#52

Jan 04, 2014 @ 19:05:03

@GreatestIam2 Said

I prefer to think of serious things in a serious way.

Do you see a huge difference between just an apple and a full education and the moral sense of a God?

I do. And that view make the disobedience of God's command imperative and a completely justifiable action for man and makes God an immoral prick for trying to keep mankind stupid.

Seriously; see it?

Regards
DL

Your past efforts in these matters with other people have made it clear to me that you are not someone I am interested in having such discussions with. Not because I am reluctant to defend whatever beliefs I may have (you know nothing of mine) but because you have proven yourself time and again to be bigoted rather than genuinely interested in any discussion, and I do not see the fruit in an honest attempt at discourse with you. No pun intended of course, in the interest of remaining serious.

I will not bother you again with levity if that is what you prefer. This is not a rebuke, it is me offering civility.

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Edited: January 04, 2014 @ 19:10

Willi

northinmind,

#53

Jan 04, 2014 @ 19:30:23

@Eaglebauer Said

beliefs I may have

what are your belief/s?

levity i always like.

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GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#54

Jan 04, 2014 @ 19:50:09

@Willi Said

you just defined faith.

i live.
you live better some how?

Yes because faith without facts is for fools.

Regards
DL

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GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#55

Jan 04, 2014 @ 19:52:47

@Eaglebauer Said

Your past efforts in these matters with other people have made it clear to me that you are not someone I am interested in having such discussions with. Not because I am reluctant to defend whatever beliefs I may have (you know nothing of mine) but because you have proven yourself time and again to be bigoted rather than genuinely interested in any discussion, and I do not see the fruit in an honest attempt at discourse with you. No pun intended of course, in the interest of remaining serious.

I will not bother you again with levity if that is what you prefer. This is not a rebuke, it is me offering civility.

This is you not being able to refute and offering yourself a way out.

Regards
DL

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Willi

northinmind,

#56

Jan 04, 2014 @ 20:02:53

@GreatestIam2 Said

Yes because faith without facts is for fools.

Regards
DL

don't forget crazy folks.
i'm crazy.
not a fool.

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Willi

northinmind,

#57

Jan 04, 2014 @ 20:05:32

the moral sense of a God?

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Eaglebauer

Moderator
Deleted

Saint Louis, Missouri

#58

Jan 05, 2014 @ 00:42:09

@GreatestIam2 Said

This is you not being able to refute and offering yourself a way out.

Regards
DL

You seem awfully sure that if you had a different approach you and I wouldn't be on the same side.

I'll let you know this much: I am not a Christian, nor am I a practicing Jew (my father's side of the family was Jewish).

I'll also let you know this much: I haven't bothered to read most of your post to me so I'm not looking for a way out, I'm simply ignoring you because, as I have said, your history shows that you are most interested in pointing out how everyone else is wrong rather than how you are right.

And so I simply have no use for you.

Regards

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Edited: January 05, 2014 @ 00:53

GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#59

Jan 05, 2014 @ 02:42:52

Here is a quarter.

Regards
DL

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Willi

northinmind,

#60

Jan 05, 2014 @ 03:06:03

No Quarter - Led Zeppelin

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Who was correct, Jews or Christians? Was Eden our elevation or our fall?