Irish pub deny entry to Arabs & Islanders

hi, i saw an article in the newspaper today, apparently there is an Irish pub in Sydney that has a policy whereby anyone who is Arab or Pacific Islander descent is denyed entry.

the pub owners cite the reason for the policy is based on security grounds, as violence is attributed to those ethnic groups (and adding alcohol to the mix makes the situation worse).

personally, i think this is just racism, what are other people's thoughts? can what the pub owners have done be justified at all?

Racist.

Nope. I guess if he's always had a problem with the arab guys getting in fights then he still shouldn't stop them ALL going in. They should just profile all the ones that do get in fights, and deny them entry. If any other ones get in a fight then they get kicked out for good too.

Profiling of people that get into fights and denying them entry should be based on whether a person regularly fights, not based on ethnic background.

You never know he might have had that much trouble this was the only solution

what about normal arabs and pacific islander that haven't caused trouble? it's unfair to deny entry to them.

u should look at the individual and determine whether or not to deny entry, rather than looking at the person's race.

do the arabs and islanders fight each other?

don't know, but say ur arab or a pacific islander and u just want a nice drink at the pub?

ur not there to cause trouble, so it's quite unfair that ur denied entry just because other people of the same race of u caused trouble in the past.

tbh if they are known for consistanly causing trouble then yes ban them, the owner is doing his best to protect his interests and his coustomers. You dont say if he tried other solutions first and if this was a last resort, if you dont know the answer to those questions then how can you say he did anything wrong?

it's wrong to deny entry to people based on race. period.

what if people of ur race caused trouble, but u as an individual didn't cause trouble? is it still fair to deny entry? i don't think so.

and it's stupid from the owner's perspective to, ur denying entry to paying customers.

paying customers that might do alot of damage, obviously your not gonna back down and you dont know the full story or wish to find it out.
You are a typical sensationalist trawling the news to find something to moan about to make you look morally correct.
You never know if you bother to post the whole story or mabye a link to it so we can make our own minds up I might even agree with you but im too broad minded to take your word for it

link:
https://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21661672-5001021,00.html

let's try empathy here, imagine yourself as an arab guy that wants to go to a pub and have a few drinks. u are a law-abiding citizen who hasn't broken any laws and have a good clean record, u then get denied entry to the pub because ur arab?

is it stil fair?

the pub should assess people individually and determine whether the person as an individual is likely cause trouble or not. to assume he/she will cause trouble because they are arab or pacific islander is racist.

To be honest there was good reason to do it.
However the ban didnt need to last as long as it did and should have been in place only while new plans and controls could be established.

I think any business can deny admission for any reason they like, particularly bars and clubs. Its been going on for years. Not that its fair, it just happens all the time.

How many times does the landlord have to clear up the mess before he gets fed up with and takes an action which dramaticly reduces the threat of violence and destruction in his bar?

You seem to like the idea of putting yourself in the shoes of a fictional arab who does no harm to anyone and loves his mother. Try putting yourself in the landlords shoes one time and see how you would react.

Would you continue to hold fast to the mentality that a persons race has no baering on the matter when all you ever see is those persons of that race smashing the place up.

We can all sit back and tut tut about ethics when we arnt the ones on the front line.