Homosexuality in children's cartoons

@PTF Said

Hopefully...wait...Your nightmarish cartoon will never make the big screen nor the cartoon channel.
You can give BET a try to boost their ratings...good luck there.

@Jennifer1984 Said

I'm not sure what the attitude of "Soccer Mums" is. Are they vehemently anti-homosexual or something..? I really don't know.

Having said that, whatever you do, you'd be doing the homosexual community a grave disservice if you portrayed your character as a stereotype. A stereotype will not only come under immediate attack, but would further cement the kind of negative image that we don't like and really don't deserve.

Rather, it would be more productive if you modelled your character on being an ordinary person who just happens to be a lesbian, because that is what the vast, overwhelming majority of us are. Very ordinary. Boringly so, mostly.

We don't typically wear dungarees, grow beards or smoke cigars and we sure as heck don't go around waving rainbow flags all day long.

Rather, why not just let your character have the sort of everyday issues / scrapes / adventures that all kids have, but let her do it with a female companion with whom she is obviously very close and also, perhaps, lives with. Understate the sexuality aspect, but just do enough to make it clear that same gender relationships do occur and are quite normal. I think that might just present you with a writing challenge to get your teeth into. Good luck.

"Gently does it" is a good way to go about things.

@last_wave_of_summer Said

I honestly reckon people spend too much time carrying on about the symbolism or whatever you want to call it in kids movies and books.

I read somewhere an article claiming the Lion King had racist messages...as a kid I didn't pick up on that, I just saw a great move. Even now I watch it and still don't get the "racist message" crap.

In the end I reckon it doesn't matter what message a movie or book is trying to send, if the "soccer mums" are homophobic and teach the kids the same then that's going to be their main influence.

The parents will always have a bigger impact on how a kid grows up regardless of movies, TV, Music, books, toys....

@NNewt84 Said

so let’s cut to the chase here.

I’m planning to make a cartoon show one day, which centres around a young girl in a small rural town. I don’t want to give too much away, but one of the main characters is a lesbian. This being a show for children, I will have to face the soccer moms (and/or dads) at one point or another. And unlike most children’s shows, where the gay accusations are either incorrect or lacking in sufficient evidence, it’s definitely true this time, so I could get it much worse. But here’s my question: should I give in to the soccer parents, or should I just ignore them? Because I really want to ignore them, but I don’t know if that’s a good idea.

@last_wave_of_summer Said

I honestly reckon people spend too much time carrying on about the symbolism or whatever you want to call it in kids movies and books.

@PTF Said

I don't care.

@yami Said

Bang goes that fantasy...

@boxer Said

You've given too much away. You're supposed to hide the lesbian until the book in the hands of children, then have the lesbian leap out, tits swinging in the wind, with hairy armpits and a tie dyed wrap skort.. That's the way to cause controversy and that's what sells stories.

@yami Said

They don't look like that in the movies!

Good luck with your venture...you'll need it, this is pretty controversial for a kids cartoon.
What sort of adventures do they have?

@Jennifer1984 Said

I'm not sure what the attitude of "Soccer Mums" is. Are they vehemently anti-homosexual or something..? I really don't know.

Having said that, whatever you do, you'd be doing the homosexual community a grave disservice if you portrayed your character as a stereotype. A stereotype will not only come under immediate attack, but would further cement the kind of negative image that we don't like and really don't deserve.

Rather, it would be more productive if you modelled your character on being an ordinary person who just happens to be a lesbian, because that is what the vast, overwhelming majority of us are. Very ordinary. Boringly so, mostly.

We don't typically wear dungarees, grow beards or smoke cigars and we sure as heck don't go around waving rainbow flags all day long.

Rather, why not just let your character have the sort of everyday issues / scrapes / adventures that all kids have, but let her do it with a female companion with whom she is obviously very close and also, perhaps, lives with. Understate the sexuality aspect, but just do enough to make it clear that same gender relationships do occur and are quite normal. I think that might just present you with a writing challenge to get your teeth into. Good luck.

"Gently does it" is a good way to go about things.

@chaski Said

I think you do care.

Walks away.

@PTF Said

How's it going chas ?
Always good to see ya...um ?
(watches chaski walking away as he ignores me)

@chaski Said

In honor of a particular TFS member, who will remain anonymous (PTF), who likes to make posts and finish with the phrase, "Walks Away."

This is the Walks Away topic.

Here's what you do... post something (perhaps an opinion that is either controversial or just stupid) and then say "Walks Away".

You might even post a walk away picture....

Like this...

Chaski: I love Jewish girls because they will kiss you even if your mouth is full of peanuts. Walks away.





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@chaski Said

I made a topic in your honor...

@PTF Said

I'm honored.
Just finished posting.

(walks away)

@chaski Said

Fixed that for you.

@Jennifer1984 Said

Very, very few look like that in real life. A gay man would know that.

@Jennifer1984 Said

I'm not sure what the attitude of "Soccer Mums" is. Are they vehemently anti-homosexual or something..? I really don't know.

Having said that, whatever you do, you'd be doing the homosexual community a grave disservice if you portrayed your character as a stereotype. A stereotype will not only come under immediate attack, but would further cement the kind of negative image that we don't like and really don't deserve.

Rather, it would be more productive if you modelled your character on being an ordinary person who just happens to be a lesbian, because that is what the vast, overwhelming majority of us are. Very ordinary. Boringly so, mostly.

We don't typically wear dungarees, grow beards or smoke cigars and we sure as heck don't go around waving rainbow flags all day long.

Rather, why not just let your character have the sort of everyday issues / scrapes / adventures that all kids have, but let her do it with a female companion with whom she is obviously very close and also, perhaps, lives with. Understate the sexuality aspect, but just do enough to make it clear that same gender relationships do occur and are quite normal. I think that might just present you with a writing challenge to get your teeth into. Good luck.

"Gently does it" is a good way to go about things.