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white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#31New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 19:15:54
@twilitezone911 Said

in these small town, where hickville lives. this is probably some what normal. the article really doesn't how old the children are? I assume the children under 8 years old.

the trauma of the crime is why is change for 9 months in jail. I guess the man was would charge if force the child clean up the mess , shot the animal as well.

if this crime was legal in this town, you probably have kids become serial killers. these kinds of crimes , kids wouldn't understand right and wrong how to treat animal right. it really not surprise that this happen in usa. it wouldn't be surprise, either, if the man was charge with a fine and had no jail time.



@twilitezone911 Said

I didn't post anything what are saying, because I agree with you. but since I never own a gun. I don't a gun in my apartment. I am sure what you want from me. I was compare things because how different areas, we live in.



Well since we are being honest and all I never can figure out what it is you post until I run it Thu a grammar checker and get the blanks filled in.

in your first post in this thread you stereotyped gun owners as some real dangerous ignorant small town hickville creatures .
When in reality, if you were to take the time to research a bit . You would find that a very large percentage of the fire arm caused deaths are at the hands of city dwellers . And all of the a****** ' law makers' who don't do anything except wipe the asses of the NRA are also city dwellers .

Here is a bit of 'heads up'
No matter where they live a truly serious gun owner will NEVER try to convince themselves that if he/she puts the gun in one box in that closet and the ammo in another box in that other closet that the gun has now become as safe and comfy as a cup of cocoa. So there is no reason to be worried or feel responsible for the safety of any children or family around the house.
twilitezone911 On March 25, 2019




Saint Louis, Missouri
#32New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 19:26:32
in your first post in this thread you stereotyped gun owners as some real dangerous ignorant small town hickville creatures .
When in reality, if you were to take the time to research a bit . You would find that a very large percentage of the fire arm caused deaths are at the hands of city dwellers . And all of the a****** ' law makers' who don't do anything except wipe the asses of the NRA are also city dwellers

yes, I was wrong to make a joke about hickville people. I was saying that the media portrayed them as well as the entertainment media. most gun deaths in the city than country side. law makers will support any lobbists that will support them.
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#33New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 19:28:16
@psycoskunk Said

Damn! Snattel Rakes don't stand a chance. You're like the Slayer of Snattel Rakes.



Why, thank you kind sir. that is probably one of the nicest compliments i have ever received




Of course, some people wouldn't need a shovel, after eight years they would only need to toss their shoe at the snake to incapacitate him .
twilitezone911 On March 25, 2019




Saint Louis, Missouri
#34New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 19:29:26
Here is a bit of 'heads up'
No matter where they live a truly serious gun owner will NEVER try to convince themselves that if he/she puts the gun in one box in that closet and the ammo in another box in that other closet that the gun has now become as safe and comfy as a cup of cocoa. So there is no reason to be worried or feel responsible for the safety of any children or family around the house.


you are right, that a gun owner wouldn't their ammo in another box. it would lock drawer, near a place he or she grab at once.
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#35New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 19:44:45
@twilitezone911 Said

Here is a bit of 'heads up'
No matter where they live a truly serious gun owner will NEVER try to convince themselves that if he/she puts the gun in one box in that closet and the ammo in another box in that other closet that the gun has now become as safe and comfy as a cup of cocoa. So there is no reason to be worried or feel responsible for the safety of any children or family around the house.


you are right, that a gun owner wouldn't their ammo in another box. it would lock drawer, near a place he or she grab at once.



No, the smart thing to do would be to first teach your children that guns are not toys. they are for harvesting food and protecting home and loved ones .Then store both the loaded gun and the spare ammo in a place that is out of reach and sight of said children . but within easy reach of any responsable adult that may need it in a quick . in case an unwelcome intruder shows up .
there ismuch to be said for those old school sayigs
Like

" out of sight , out of mind "
When I hear about yet another child getting a hold of daddy's/ mommy's gun and killing baby sibling. It always seems as if the loaded gun had been being stored in the kids toy box or some thing ..
psycoskunk On December 24, 2020
Funky-Footed Skunk





A fort made of stinky socks, C
#36New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 19:56:46
@white_swan53 Said

Why, thank you kind sir. that is probably one of the nicest compliments i have ever received




Of course, some people wouldn't need a shovel, after eight years they would only need to toss their shoe at the snake to incapacitate him .


I think that should be your custom title. 'Slayer of Snattel Rakes.' That way people'll know you mean business.

Yeah, well... it's a gift, heheh... *Nervous laugh.*


I've had two close encounters with snattel rakes in my life so far (not close as in I almost got bitten, but I was fairly close to them). One of the times I was with my dad looking for cool rocks for the pond he wanted to fix in the backyard and he went up further while I just hung back and enjoyed the view. I found the one shady spot on the rocky hillside and was just chilling there when I noticed a rake slither up near where my dad went ahead. It was just looking for shade too, but it stopped about 3 meters away because it noticed my presence and we sort of just stared at each other for 5 minutes before it turned back and went the other way.

The other time was a bit more serious as there was one near a nature trail when my aunt and her friend came up to visit and it tried to lunge at my aunt. It was too far away to get her, but it probably did it as a warning because we definitely couldn't see it in the tall, brown grass and it was just coiled up nearby. I whipped a rock near its head to startle it and it immediately slithered back into the bushes. Those damn rakes are crafty sometimes.
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#37New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 20:31:31
@white_swan53 Said

Now I realize that this area is a very small area in context to the Nation and us all being backwards hill billy's to boot . it doesn't really compare to the issues we as a nation face .


Wait ... There's hillbillys out west? I thought their habitat was between the Appalachians and the Mississippi?


.. but I agree / understand with what you posted (and I deleted) - It is a whole different mind set from birth.

Think if inner-city gangs thought that Chainsaws were cool!
or
I need a chainsaw to protect my homestead!
floydgirrl On October 08, 2022
Stalkee





Pope's Wine Celler, Holy See (
#38New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 23:08:01
@white_swan53 Said

As a rule , I usally wouldn't waste ammo on a snake , yes I've seen those hollywood movies where the manly man star empties his six shooter killing a snake right before it is going to eat the starlet and her whole family .....Frist of all , I do notgo out huntingfor snattel rakes and don't allow anyoneelse to either te onlytime I kill one is when one of them intrudes into my space ,
The best , quickest and easest way to deal with one from 1 inch to 5 feet or more ,is with a planeole garden spade. While thesnakeis coiled and making noise take your spade and bring the flat part straight down on top of his head , put some a** behind it when you clock him with the shovel At this point he is knocked koo koo . he's sort of just laying therewitha dumblook trying to figure out what just happened. You then use the sharp edge of your shovel to disconnect his head from the rest of him . he has just lost a fight he never even knew he was having .


I'm going to have night terrors about rattle snakes thanks to this thread
twilitezone911 On March 25, 2019




Saint Louis, Missouri
#39New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 23:16:27
swan- most parents with younger children would hide the gun from the children. they would hide the gun in high place that find. it would take longer if more time, for home owner think about what he or she doing. that what I try said before.

I think is good that your children how shoot the gun for emergency. without you give any facts, I think parents would avoid teach their children until learn shoot after they are 16 or 18.

I have friends, when I was a kid at camp. they learn used air rifle or air pellet rifles. some of my friends leaned how use 22 rifle at gun range. my friends would learn ( I like did first ) first we learn how to shoot air rifle or 22 on camp 's gun ranges. most of my friends used their own backyard, as a gun's range with parent's supervision.
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
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#40New Post! Oct 26, 2015 @ 23:16:54
my cousin lived out in the vague direction of white swan found a snake curled up in on the turntable in the stereo. I don't think it was a rattler though.
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#41New Post! Oct 27, 2015 @ 00:26:16
@psycoskunk Said

I think that should be your custom title. 'Slayer of Snattel Rakes.' That way people'll know you mean business.

Yeah, well... it's a gift, heheh... *Nervous laugh.*


I've had two close encounters with snattel rakes in my life so far (not close as in I almost got bitten, but I was fairly close to them). One of the times I was with my dad looking for cool rocks for the pond he wanted to fix in the backyard and he went up further while I just hung back and enjoyed the view. I found the one shady spot on the rocky hillside and was just chilling there when I noticed a rake slither up near where my dad went ahead. It was just looking for shade too, but it stopped about 3 meters away because it noticed my presence and we sort of just stared at each other for 5 minutes before it turned back and went the other way.

The other time was a bit more serious as there was one near a nature trail when my aunt and her friend came up to visit and it tried to lunge at my aunt. It was too far away to get her, but it probably did it as a warning because we definitely couldn't see it in the tall, brown grass and it was just coiled up nearby. I whipped a rock near its head to startle it and it immediately slithered back into the bushes. Those damn rakes are crafty sometimes.



I have never been closer then a shovel handle to one of any size
One morning when my daughter was about 8 years old she decided to help me with my morning chores. One of the milk cows had a bay calf ,that morning the babies face was all swollen and two small puncture wounds on it's nose told the tale.
I was sitting there milking while my kid leaned up against my shoulder , we were doing what girls do best , running off at the mouth about everything and nothing when I happened to look down and my kid is standing on a baby snattle rake , it's head was under one boot while it's tail was under her other boot, that is why we didn't hear it, let me tell you , this mama just about s*** (for reals) her pants. the bucket of milk went flying across the corrals that poor milk cow gave a huge grunt when I kicked out away from her, taking my kid with me. the other 2 cows waiting their turns in the stanchion went haywire and tried to jump the gate , all this time my kid is still clueless and the look on her face said " okay, mom has totally lost it someone please call the the nice young men in the clean white coats " I'm trying to stomp that baby snake into mush while its still under the milk cow , the poor cow is locked in the stanchion ,,,
well you probably get the picture.,,
after the snake is mush and my kid gets a clue ,my knees are still knocking and my jaw is still locked . That poor cow lets out a huge cow fart and just pisses all over my feet and the dead snake.
You haven't lived until a very upset milk cow farts in your face and pisses on your boots to show her displeasure.
My kid starts laughing as kids will do , which starts me laughing , i just said "f*** it' let the cows out ,hoped the baby would be okay and we went to the house .
The baby lived to grow up and have lots of babies of her own. My daughter and myself never again just assumed a snake had left the location just because it didn't jump up and wave at us,,,

i thought my granddad wasgoing to have a strok while he listened to my kid tell him why we came back to the house with out a bucket or any milk and the cows were headed out to the pasture.

Grand dad really did try really hard not ROFLMAO at her tale in front of us.
BTW, that snake was about 5 inches long .
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#42New Post! Oct 27, 2015 @ 00:34:15
@mrmhead Said

Wait ... There's hillbillys out west? I thought their habitat was between the Appalachians and the Mississippi?


.. but I agree / understand with what you posted (and I deleted) - It is a whole different mind set from birth.

Think if inner-city gangs thought that Chainsaws were cool!
or
I need a chainsaw to protect my homestead!



Well really we ain't 'hill billy's ' we be mountain williams .

If it were chain saws instead of guns , the mess would be a hundred times bloodier and the crime site would turn the stomach of the most harden cop . But on the bright side , criminals would more then likely cut off a leg or an arm learning how to operate the saw and go deaf at an early age because they would be to stupid to use ear plugs.
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#43New Post! Oct 27, 2015 @ 00:36:18
@floydgirrl Said

I'm going to have night terrors about rattle snakes thanks to this thread



just start sleeping with a shovel .
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white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#44New Post! Oct 27, 2015 @ 00:58:30
@twilitezone911 Said

swan- most parents with younger children would hide the gun from the children. they would hide the gun in high place that find. it would take longer if more time, for home owner think about what he or she doing. that what I try said before.

I think is good that your children how shoot the gun for emergency. without you give any facts, I think parents would avoid teach their children until learn shoot after they are 16 or 18.

I have friends, when I was a kid at camp. they learn used air rifle or air pellet rifles. some of my friends leaned how use 22 rifle at gun range. my friends would learn ( I like did first ) first we learn how to shoot air rifle or 22 on camp 's gun ranges. most of my friends used their own backyard, as a gun's range with parent's supervision.



twilite, those are the parents was speaking of when said that not all the blame belongs at the law makers doorstep.
WTF would a parent not teach their child about something that will kill the child if ever he/she were to 'find' it while the parent is out of the Childs eye sight and or hearing ??? That's just so stupid on all levels ,that it should be punishable with hanging by the neck till dead. Okay maybe just not allowed to own a child and a fire arm at the same time .
Like I said , it's those parents that are clueless and refuse to own up to the serious and heavy reasonability of being a parent and a gun owner .

There is a old daisy BB gun that sits right along side the hunting rifles and shotguns and hand guns in the gun case. it gets the same care and is maintained same as all the rest of the fire arms /
In our family , every kid at the ripe old age of 5 years old , no matter their gender, is taken aside by a parent ,grand parent, uncle , aunt which ever . and taught how to clean load and handle a fire arm using that old daisy . It is never okay for any kid to put a hand on any gun with out it being handed to them by an adult . And I would hate to see what would happen to an adult caught handing or allowing a kid to handle any gun except for that daisy until that kid has passed a hunter safety course and has made their first kill during a hunt . In this state the hunter safety course starts at 10 years old but some of our kids have to wait till they are 12 or older depending on the adult who is teaching them. And this is not anything special or wonderful or even fresh for my family.
this is just the way things are done in our neck of the woods here .
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#45New Post! Oct 27, 2015 @ 01:05:31
@floydgirrl Said

I'm going to have night terrors about rattle snakes thanks to this thread



@white_swan53 Said

just start sleeping with a shovel .
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Or a chainsaw!
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