Virginia Attorney General Issues Opinion Allowing Police to Question Immigration

@jackmcg Said

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/02/virginia-attorney-general-rules-police-check-immigration-status/

Well, Eric Holder won't have to travel far for this one, but this definitely puts it all back on the burner.

@Willi Said

those that are not legal left arizona i've read.
if we make those here now legal.
who does it harm?

@jackmcg Said

I don't know. There's the situation with levels of education, ability to speak the language, viable work at least for now and general lack of assimilation. The link is to StratFor, a very good strategic intelligence site (Stratfor.com) and its weekly forecast involving immigration, specifically Mexico and where it may be taking us. If you can't open the link, go to the site itself. Lengthy, but a very interesting read.

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100802_arizona_borderlands_and_us_mexican_relations?utm_source=GWeekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=100803&utm_content=GIRimage&elq=48726479158e4f62ac8217c9a3d67c5b

@Willi Said

sounds like the needs after a war created this.

back then mexicans came, worked, sent money home.
it helped build the west, helped mexico recover.
the border was agreed on.
now the west is built and they wanna all live in it?
whites will become a minority.
the culture will change to mexican.
it will be hard to find an english sign.
it will go back to mexico?

california sounds like a big change in settlers.
never mensioned who owned it before mexico.
but things were not owned by the first folks.
or have i learned wrong?

@jackmcg Said

George Friedman, the author of the piece, has commented on what he calls "borderlands" that have changed hands between nations. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California are the "borderland" associated with the US and Mexico.

Friedman believes there is little the US can do to stop the Mexican culture from supplanting the US culture in that "borderland" area over the next 50 years or so. It may belong to the US by national sovereignty, but he states it will belong to Mexico by ethnic population base and culture.

@DiscordTiger Said

What "US culture" New Mexico at least there are other parts of the "borderlands" that are the same, and have plenty of culture and history that has to do with its roots as a Spanish (from Spain) colony that go back at least 100 years or more before the United States even existed. Are we supposed to just give that up because people confuse it with current "Mexican" culture?

@Willi Said

i like that idea.
lets give mexico back to spain.

@DiscordTiger Said

I don't think Spain wants them, nor so they want to be part of Spain anymore. Mexico can still be Mexico.

I just get a little frustrated when people assume that anyone of Hispanic decent in the "borderlands" is illegal immigrant from Mexico, and they are breeding like cockroaches. And get treated as such as something that needs to be removed. If a person is illegal, then do what needs to be done, but lumping in people that aren't and have family roots that have been here 100's of years and painting them with the same brush is not cool. In a lot of cases they never really had much ties to the country of "Mexico" anyway, the territory was only part of Mexico for about 25 years.

@DiscordTiger Said

I don't think Spain wants them, nor so they want to be part of Spain anymore. Mexico can still be Mexico.

I just get a little frustrated when people assume that anyone of Hispanic decent in the "borderlands" is illegal immigrant from Mexico, and they are breeding like cockroaches. And get treated as such as something that needs to be removed. If a person is illegal, then do what needs to be done, but lumping in people that aren't and have family roots that have been here 100's of years and painting them with the same brush is not cool. In a lot of cases they never really had much ties to the country of "Mexico" anyway, the territory was only part of Mexico for about 25 years.

@Willi Said

i agree.
it isn't only hispanic looking folks crossing over.
and that is the sticky part.
most do along that border.
the border does need to be controlled.
just like i have a door at my house.

@jackmcg Said

Friedman doesn't suggest that the borderlands be given to Mexico. He does the opposite, but makes the point that IF US leaders do not do something positive to control entry into the country, the Mexican government will continue to passively and actively allow its citizens to move over the international border.

The result will be that Mexican culture will be stronger than US culture. That will be the fault of our leaders for not doing something and us for not pushing them.