Some of the smart fellows from across the pond ....guns ,ammo and crime

In March of 1996 a guy named Thomas Hamilton walks into a class room armed with four handguns and 743 rounds of ammunition . He kills 16 kids and the teacher continues on to wound 10 more kids a 3 more teachers.
The parliament decides that the way to respond to this tragic event is to treat every one as if they had done something similar and in July of 1997 they demanded a compulsorily surrender of all firearms and ammo by all private citizens to the local police .


How do some of you guys look at your selves in the mirror ?
You all cowed down when your leaders told you that because one guy did this they figured all of you would be doing it too so you all needed to hand over your guns and ammo . AND DAMNED IF YOU ALL DID exactly that post haste !!!



https://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#general

but there hasn't been many multiple murders with handguns since then ... which is more important than owning one .

I am so amazed by the fact that you guys truely believe it's about the guns and not the crimes .


And you did have that July 2005 problem with those home grown terrorists killing 56 people and injuring about 700 others.
What price did parliament extract from the population in response to that ?

swan ..you have to stick to subject, it's not about terrorist attacks,or car deaths ; we can discuss those on another thread ...it's about public ownership of guns and the destruction that it causes...... we don't have easy access to guns and we don't have the same amount of killing sprees . guns do not lessen crime ,they contribute to crime ..i'm beginning to wonder if mrs lanza's ownership of guns may have been the enabler for her unwell son ... if she didn't own guns his idea of embarking on a killing spree may have not seemed possible to him .. and so he may have just had a long sulk ... plus his mother may have thought(like so many gun owhers do) that owning guns made her safe ... how wrong did she turn out to be ...her owning guns was what caused her early death .... we in england don't need guns to feel safe .... and most of us realize that mass gun ownership merely allows more people to kill when they ,or someone close to them lose their reason and reaches for the gun .

Really ??? So how do you explaine the jump in the homicide rate in England and Wales after the laws were put in place ??

Let me try to explain this in terms both countries can maybe understand

Compare our guns to your booze both cause huge problems for each country yet nothing is done by either one.

Too the Brits what would happen if a bill/law came out saying no more booze?

Hell the riots you have had the past year would be tame to what would happen over there if this law were to be passed.

those are deaths caused by other means ...i'm saying that if we had still had the guns available ...then the murder rate would be much higher ... you might like to post some figures that compare the killing spree/multiple murder ( like sandy hook )rates of the usa and england ( a percentage per thousand or million head should do ) .i think englands will be much lower , and i think it's because england took steps to limit the number of gun owners after similiar massacres ,thus making the casual availabillity of firarms to unsuitable people much less likely.

but resto' you guys persist in muddying the water with other examples ..like cars or terrorism and now booze....we are talking about guns and the addiction that america seems to have with them .

Are really that dense , or are you just pretending ?

The reason the violent crimes increased over 50 % right after all the private citizens had lost their guns, was because the criminals knew it was much safer to be an active criminal ,now that their victims were no longer armed. DUH !!!

Holy crap. Yet ANOTHER thread about guns, which country is better or worse because they do or don't have guns, which one is more violent, etc.

Give it a frickin' rest people. This should be a time of love, happiness, family, sharing and caring not about who's country is better or has the bigger proverbial d***.

I can admit to my addiction can the Brits admit to their addiction that causes so many deaths, injuries and broken families?

Same boat just a different oar.

See you seek to understand yet wont look at both as an huge problem. It is so simple to say remove guns yet. I say your problem can be fixed by removing booze.

Same pot just a different ingredients for death.

I love YOU Merry Christmas

No, we are not talking about America or it's right to bear arms.

This thread is about the crime rate increase in the UK after the guns and ammo had been taken away from the private citizens because one guy had killed 16 kids and wounded several others on school property .

This thread is not about compareing countries.
It is about the UK and violent crime rate increase and how the citizens bowed down tov their parlament post haste.

OH and On a happier note


MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL