Public Schools and their 'Security Measures'

@white_swan53 Said

Way back n the mid to late 1990's when y youngest kid was entering high school . The school she was to start attending , had been a closed campus for quite sometime with a 12 foot high chain link fence surrounding the entire place , which was not a problem to my way of thinking.
But , the year before my kid started her freshman year t,he school became more like a detention center or juvenile correctional facility with guards on the roofs and at the entrance gate a metal detector at the front doors complete with guards..
There had not been any serious issue with violence of any kind. No kid napping or gang banger problems nor fire arm / weapons.
I did not like the changes , but felt I had no choice. It's not like there are high schools around every corner .

The school year was just started the first report cards were couple f weeks away , hen one day I had to go get my kid for a doctors appointment she had .
Now, I'm her mother and legal guardian , she's in a public school and it was local and real doctor she had an appointment with . I showed up an hour before her appointment to get her , Starting at the gate
I was treated like I was trying to kidnap the president or something. It took 20 minutes get passed that guard with all his inane questions an requisites for info. , so by the time I'm walking though the front doors I'm not in a real nice frame of mind.I walk thur their detector with no problem . Then the secretary starts in with the same s*** the a** hole at the gate had.
I mentioned that maybe she could just call him and get his okay about me and then if she could use her intercom and call my kid up there maybe we wouldn't miss her appointment
Long story short. We not only missed the doc appt. we were over a hour late before my kid walked into that sectaries office.
I had , had to much by then. Before I left that school property that day my kid had been un enrolled ..
She never walked though another public school door again, She went Thu the four years of highschool attending a private church school. Now I' ot a chrch ger and a that time o since ave never attended an servics or gatherings at that or any other church.
I really hated that she didn't have the extra activties like ball games and clubs and the social interaction that akid gets atendin regular high school . But f the trade off was a better education fr the kid , none of the the crappy education and the s***ty way the public schools had started treating both the students and parents .

Now days it seems that a week doesn't pass that we hear about some school having been on ' lock down' for all sorts of different reasons. That is a phrase that should not be assoiciated with a place full of children ,IMO.
It's strange, we have turned our schools into prison like places,keeping the kids in and the rest of the world out and it does no good. For a parent to get onto and remove their kids from a school property for a Doctors appt. is about as easy as touring the white house, post 9/11.

@Demented Said

Well white swan,I know I'll get jumped all over for saying this,but you Americans live in a gun happy society as has been proven more times than I care to think about.
How many times in recent years and in past years have we heard about some loser going into a restaurant,work place,school or any other public place for that matter and killing people for know better reason than they can or they have some petty grievance with someone or something. We've heard of kids being stabbed to death in schools,or kids having weapons confiscated from them before they even get through the gates and god knows we've seen many times kids bashing the teachers and video footage posted on youtube.

I understand your attitude toward the school in mention in your thread,and I will agree that I think their security measures were way way overboard,BUT,you have to agree their attitude at making sure your child was in a safe environment with all the overboard security ensuring nobody got in without good reason worked,it's just a shame they didn't have something like that at this latest school killing,so many innocent lives taken (adults and little children)and all because of one loser with access to guns.

Being Australian we aren't allowed to have Guns and I'm glad we aren't,yeah we know their are those who feel the need to have one out there walking the streets who sometimes use them,just like there are those who'll carry a knife ,but the general attitude is vastly different to that of the USA and the need to bear arms.

I've probably trodden on toes with this,but then I don't even care because I'll just slip off into tfs oblivion,never to be heard from again. Bye

@Demented Said

Well white swan,I know I'll get jumped all over for saying this,but you Americans live in a gun happy society as has been proven more times than I care to think about.
How many times in recent years and in past years have we heard about some loser going into a restaurant,work place,school or any other public place for that matter and killing people for know better reason than they can or they have some petty grievance with someone or something. We've heard of kids being stabbed to death in schools,or kids having weapons confiscated from them before they even get through the gates and god knows we've seen many times kids bashing the teachers and video footage posted on youtube.

I understand your attitude toward the school in mention in your thread,and I will agree that I think their security measures were way way overboard, BUT,you have to agree their attitude at making sure your child was in a safe environment with all the overboard security ensuring nobody got in without good reason worked,it's just a shame they didn't have something like that at this latest school killing,so many innocent lives taken (adults and little children)and all because of one loser with access to guns.

Being Australian we aren't allowed to have Guns and I'm glad we aren't,yeah we know their are those who feel the need to have one out there walking the streets who sometimes use them,just like there are those who'll carry a knife ,but the general attitude is vastly different to that of the USA and the need to bear arms.

I've probably trodden on toes with this,but then I don't even care because I'll just slip off into tfs oblivion,never to be heard from again. Bye

@white_swan53 Said

It worked in the sense that my 'child' was never again held prisoner behind 12 foot high fences with locked or guarded gates and roof tops. Not able to come and go as a non convicted American citizen . I told that principle that day ,that if ever my daughter were to become a convict and court ordered to do time , at least she couldn't say she had no idea what to expect going in.

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Just think. If our guys hadn't of been able to whip a** and push back ,all those years ago when ole king James was taxing with out representing the colony's we would be singing the same tunes lots and lots of folks who ancestors either never bothered to fight off the mantle of serf or subject , or lost the fight

@syco Said

Wow, your pissed at your kids school because they took there responsibility towards her safety seriously? I bet if the security wasn't there and your darling child was the victim of another columbine then you'd have been the first to be ranting about there incompetence.

Maybe if you'd had informed the school beforehand then she would have been outside waiting for you, or better yet, keep her at home the day she has to get to the doctors.

@white_swan53 Said

Damn straight! I got pissed, when my darling childs school campus became no different then a prison compound .

@Tar Said

Prison or fortress?

@white_swan53 Said

I did mention in my OP that there had not been any problems with violence, guns or otherwise before the school started with gaurds on the roof and gates and such. To my knowledge over a decade later there still hasn't been any such problems there.