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cobber On July 22, 2006

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#16New Post! Apr 20, 2006 @ 23:49:15
@alljive Said
Don't you dare count me as one of your own if these are the criteria and the reasoning.

The politically correct are going against their own?
I count myself as part of no race but the human race, I will not be defended nor slurred as a group/race/creed/colour/culture.

KEEP your support, I have neither want nor need for it.

ANY group discriminating for reasons such as these is in the wrong, about that you are right of course, but MORE discrimination and hatered does NOTHING to better things.


You're misunderstanding this alljive and I am not asking for hatred, so settle.
shannix11 On November 09, 2011




, Canada
#17New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 00:46:56
I'm confussed by your response myself alljive, could you be more specific.

Namaste

Shannix
faz182 On May 13, 2009




swindon, United Kingdom
#18New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 00:57:20
@alljive Said
Cobber, really. What are you saying?

Slagging an entire cultre just like that? You know full well your example is bulls***, I HOPE, and I doubt you posess enough of the facts to make a judgement about wether the fire was sacred to them or not.

Why spew such bile man? Have you not good things to do?


couldnt agree with you more mate. good for you for standing up for what is right.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#19New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 00:58:10
Utopian tablets anybody?
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#20New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:04:26
@faz182 Said
eat s*** and die, racist.


Now, that's intelligent!

I love how you only just question policy and actions and you're labelled, Racist.

Once upon a time you were called a Commie, then you were labelled a fascist/nazi and now, it's racist.

Just their way of yelling down arguement to stifling debate against their foolish ideals.

Mate, don't call me a racist without knowing me!
alljive On March 03, 2007




trondheim, Norway
#21New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:09:18
Ok shannix.

I will do this in detail then, what follows are my own personal objections to the post I quoted. I am no guru, so don't try blaming me for any of your choices later in life.




The only people of the world that are told to practice being politically correct are caucasians. Non caucasions do not raise themselves to be politically correct.
They don't even preach it unless it is preaching to the caucasians.
---quote cobber.

alljive: This is blatantly in error, the mere shadow of research will tell you that.



The worst racists are the politically correct because they not only hate their own, they will stab their own in the back just for feelings of superiority - the hold made in their heads after years of being brainwashed.
--quote cobber

alljive:
This outright pisses me of. Not because of "politically correct racists", though I doubt the term.. But the use of "their own". The idea that you shouldn't harm "your own" in this context refers to race. This I find extremely provoking, and I will be NO part of this group. Either defended as one, or slurred as on.
And.. everyone has been brainwashed? Do I really have to object to that? doesn't that just sorta fall on it's own?


The only 'white race' that does not push PC drama amongst their own, is the Jewish community. In fact, you never even hear them see that they are white, black etc...only Jewish which many including themselves, call a race of its own. Ooooooh, stating yet another fact.
---quote cobber.

alljive:
Ok, honestly.. I can't make heads or tails of this. Have no idea what this is supposed to mean, pretty sure the attempt at communication failed though. Not trying to be mean here.


if you want to see racism, come to Australia and I will take you through Sydney to see white people refused service Asian owned shops, take you to where I last lived in Brisbane where black africans men push white people of ALL ages to the ground. I had one try to push my then 4 year old kid to the ground.You can speak to the people who have had the cops on to them for committing self-defence but are being dealt with for racism.
--quote cobber

alljive:
The facts should never be hidden. I have no objection to racism being pointed out, whatever "race" the idiot being racist comes happens to be. Also, I am not about to start defending miscarriages of justice. There is no information on the cases mentioned about self-defense/racism, but if it was a faulty call it was a faulty call and should be righted.


Hey, nothing taking against the black africans for attacking the whitey.
--quote cobber

alljive: Again, this simply isn't true.


I can introduce to police I know in Sydney...they have stories to tell I you. Introduce to those who served as a cop in certain Aboriginal towns where they had to put up with Aboriginals spitting in their them and their children, smashing their homes and cars, being violently attacked yet they are NOT ALLOWED to charge them or face punishment for being 'racist'. WTF? They are being attacked.
--quote cobber

alljive:
I cannot dispute or verify these statements.

You see you won't associate with me. I couldn't care for I don't associate with those who attack their own and support those who attack their own. That, is the worst kind of racialist.

--quote cobber.

alljive:
I am assuming this was meant spesifically for the other guy(steven?), but I'm picking it up anyway.

This is racist. "don't associate with those who attack their own", in this context clearly referring to race. For some reason I should not attack white people huh? cuz I'm white? THIS IS RACIST. You don't have to interpret that at all, it IS.

also, by extension, it marks all who can see themselves actually attacking "their own" as "the worst kind of racialist". I am then, the worst kind of racialist, for I WILL NOT DEFEND ANYONE ON BASIS OF "RACE".


It is clearly a racist post. I used fewer words to say all that last time.
faz182 On May 13, 2009




swindon, United Kingdom
#22New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:13:11
@cobber Said
Now, that's intelligent!

I love how you only just question policy and actions and you're labelled, Racist.

Once upon a time you were called a Commie, then you were labelled a fascist/nazi and now, it's racist.

Just their way of yelling down arguement to stifling debate against their foolish ideals.

Mate, don't call me a racist without knowing me!


I dont need to know you to see your from your comments that you are a racist. It is not what you are questioning that makes you a racist. You are right in questioning. But it is the way you question and the language and prejudices that you expouse - that is what makes you a racist.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#23New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:15:33
@alljive Said
Hey, nothing taking against the black africans for attacking the whitey.
--quote cobber

alljive: Again, this simply isn't true.



This IS true. Alljive, you are half a world away from here so please don't say what is and isn't happening here. I don't pretend to have a working knowledge of Europe.

This IS happening. The adult black man who tried to push my then 4yo daughter on the ground, I knocked him on to his arse instead. He called ME a racist!

A woman rushed out to me straight after he left and told me to go quickly because they always behave like that and always call the cops crying racism against them.

When a few local caucasians complained, the police refused to act then...gov'ts orders.
faz182 On May 13, 2009




swindon, United Kingdom
#24New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:16:06
@alljive Said
Ok shannix.

I will do this in detail then, what follows are my own personal objections to the post I quoted. I am no guru, so don't try blaming me for any of your choices later in life.




The only people of the world that are told to practice being politically correct are caucasians. Non caucasions do not raise themselves to be politically correct.
They don't even preach it unless it is preaching to the caucasians.
---quote cobber.

alljive: This is blatantly in error, the mere shadow of research will tell you that.



The worst racists are the politically correct because they not only hate their own, they will stab their own in the back just for feelings of superiority - the hold made in their heads after years of being brainwashed.
--quote cobber

alljive:
This outright pisses me of. Not because of "politically correct racists", though I doubt the term.. But the use of "their own". The idea that you shouldn't harm "your own" in this context refers to race. This I find extremely provoking, and I will be NO part of this group. Either defended as one, or slurred as on.
And.. everyone has been brainwashed? Do I really have to object to that? doesn't that just sorta fall on it's own?


The only 'white race' that does not push PC drama amongst their own, is the Jewish community. In fact, you never even hear them see that they are white, black etc...only Jewish which many including themselves, call a race of its own. Ooooooh, stating yet another fact.
---quote cobber.

alljive:
Ok, honestly.. I can't make heads or tails of this. Have no idea what this is supposed to mean, pretty sure the attempt at communication failed though. Not trying to be mean here.


if you want to see racism, come to Australia and I will take you through Sydney to see white people refused service Asian owned shops, take you to where I last lived in Brisbane where black africans men push white people of ALL ages to the ground. I had one try to push my then 4 year old kid to the ground.You can speak to the people who have had the cops on to them for committing self-defence but are being dealt with for racism.
--quote cobber

alljive:
The facts should never be hidden. I have no objection to racism being pointed out, whatever "race" the idiot being racist comes happens to be. Also, I am not about to start defending miscarriages of justice. There is no information on the cases mentioned about self-defense/racism, but if it was a faulty call it was a faulty call and should be righted.


Hey, nothing taking against the black africans for attacking the whitey.
--quote cobber

alljive: Again, this simply isn't true.


I can introduce to police I know in Sydney...they have stories to tell I you. Introduce to those who served as a cop in certain Aboriginal towns where they had to put up with Aboriginals spitting in their them and their children, smashing their homes and cars, being violently attacked yet they are NOT ALLOWED to charge them or face punishment for being 'racist'. WTF? They are being attacked.
--quote cobber

alljive:
I cannot dispute or verify these statements.

You see you won't associate with me. I couldn't care for I don't associate with those who attack their own and support those who attack their own. That, is the worst kind of racialist.

--quote cobber.

alljive:
I am assuming this was meant spesifically for the other guy(steven?), but I'm picking it up anyway.

This is racist. "don't associate with those who attack their own", in this context clearly referring to race. For some reason I should not attack white people huh? cuz I'm white? THIS IS RACIST. You don't have to interpret that at all, it IS.

also, by extension, it marks all who can see themselves actually attacking "their own" as "the worst kind of racialist". I am then, the worst kind of racialist, for I WILL NOT DEFEND ANYONE ON BASIS OF "RACE".


It is clearly a racist post. I used fewer words to say all that last time.


hear, hear. Very concise. You put into words what i was trying to think. Nice one mate.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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Rockhampton, Australia
#25New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:16:51
@faz182 Said
I dont need to know you to see your from your comments that you are a racist. It is not what you are questioning that makes you a racist. You are right in questioning. But it is the way you question and the language and prejudices that you expouse - that is what makes you a racist.


faz182 On May 13, 2009




swindon, United Kingdom
#26New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:18:53
@cobber Said
This IS true. Alljive, you are half a world away from here so please don't say what is and isn't happening here. I don't pretend to have a working knowledge of Europe.

This IS happening. The adult black man who tried to push my then 4yo daughter on the ground, I knocked him on to his arse instead. He called ME a racist!

A woman rushed out to me straight after he left and told me to go quickly because they always behave like that and always call the cops crying racism against them.

When a few local caucasians complained, the police refused to act then...gov'ts orders.


i dont know much about the political state where you are, but it seems clear from your post that there is a lot of racial tension. There must be a reason that the blacks are angry with the whites, although of course I am in know way condoning their behaviour. However, it seems that instead of expousing views such as you have, there needs to be an effort to eliminate cultural and racial tension. More hatred can only make the problem worse.
faz182 On May 13, 2009




swindon, United Kingdom
#27New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:19:21
@cobber Said


very mature.
alljive On March 03, 2007




trondheim, Norway
#28New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:21:24
This IS true. Alljive, you are half a world away from here so please don't say what is and isn't happening here. I don't pretend to have a working knowledge of Europe.

This IS happening. The adult black man who tried to push my then 4yo daughter on the ground, I knocked him on to his arse instead. He called ME a racist!

A woman rushed out to me straight after he left and told me to go quickly because they always behave like that and always call the cops crying racism against them.

When a few local caucasians complained, the police refused to act then...gov'ts orders
--quote cobber
(edited in the quote a minute after posting)

Ok cobber.

I assumed you were speaking in general terms, since I now understand that you were referring to a spescific incident involving yourself I apologize for that error.
To your isolated case I could not, and would not, comment without any knowledge of it of course.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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Rockhampton, Australia
#29New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:21:55
@faz182 Said
i dont know much about the political state where you are, but it seems clear from your post that there is a lot of racial tension. There must be a reason that the blacks are angry with the whites, although of course I am in know way condoning their behaviour. However, it seems that instead of expousing views such as you have, there needs to be an effort to eliminate cultural and racial tension. More hatred can only make the problem worse.


NO excuse...just Hatred!

Try where I worked for Australia Post. We had to put up with many Asian's slurring whites, damaging our cars, slandering us to the face of management yet WE got punished if we made a complaint. One of us was threatened with a criminal charge of racial vilification for making a formal complaint.

THAT, is what's happening.

I use direct language and to the bone for it is that which makes people think.
cobber On July 22, 2006

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#30New Post! Apr 21, 2006 @ 01:23:56
@alljive Said
Ok cobber.

I assumed you were speaking in general terms, since I now understand that you were referring to a spescific incident involving yourself I apologize for that error.
To your isolated case I could not, and would not, comment without any knowledge of it of course.


In this area, it was unfortunate that caucasians commonly got verbally abused by black africans and asians there. We had police officers living in the area, they knew what was happening but weak as piss pollies refuse to act.
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