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white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#1New Post! Jun 01, 2012 @ 22:17:50
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The Obama "Truth Team" blames GOP donor Thomas O'Malley's refinery company for helping to "drive gas prices up this year by curtailing gas production." But the facts are the exact opposite.


https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-06-01/obama-truth-team-gop-donor/55333724/1?csp=24&kjnd=kIbOrXcyc0qFzYKwLHmaO22kDOLDIoV6%2BA67VGB4OY58ey4M%2FcpopJyY8A9kjnXt-203e148c-4676-48fa-98d1-85a896639598_YRJ0JUJzrjKJbdDUdghzzT7KnY3XRxcdOroiXLVbDK6lhKH4NwcmGHAOiG9Mkwc5

May be Obama should look into what his 'truth team' is using for sources and research .
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#2New Post! Jun 02, 2012 @ 17:16:20
@white_swan53 Said

https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-06-01/obama-truth-team-gop-donor/55333724/1?csp=24&kjnd=kIbOrXcyc0qFzYKwLHmaO22kDOLDIoV6%2BA67VGB4OY58ey4M%2FcpopJyY8A9kjnXt-203e148c-4676-48fa-98d1-85a896639598_YRJ0JUJzrjKJbdDUdghzzT7KnY3XRxcdOroiXLVbDK6lhKH4NwcmGHAOiG9Mkwc5

May be Obama should look into what his 'truth team' is using for sources and research .


Mixed bag. If you read it they are partially right not "wrong".
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#3New Post! Jun 02, 2012 @ 17:22:08
@shinobinoz Said

Mixed bag. If you read it they are partially right not "wrong".



I did read it.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#4New Post! Jun 02, 2012 @ 17:23:04
@white_swan53 Said

I did read it.


They are wrong about Obama's people being wrong.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#5New Post! Jun 02, 2012 @ 17:32:23
It's so full of double speak:
Calling it "the exact opposite" it states
"The Energy Information Administration credits PBF Energy for preventing a price spike in the Northeast this year by opening a refinery in Delaware — partially offsetting the loss of production from two other Philadelphia-area refineries that have closed ."

"O'Malley indeed gave $100,000 on Feb. 7 to the pro-Mitt Romney super PAC Restore Our Future, although that pales next to the $3 million given by Houston builder Bob Perry, who isn't on Obama's list."
What does that have to do with anything?

"It's also true that there was a storage tank leak at PBF's Paulsboro, N.J., refinery on Feb. 24 that resulted in a spill of approximately 157,000 barrels of oil, which is equal to about 6.6 million gallons. For the record, PBF identifies itself as the nation's fifth largest petroleum refining company, not the fourth, in a May 14 registration statement filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission as part of its plan to go public."
How forget that it is true they had a big spill- they got the company's place wrong!!!!!!

The cost did go up as Obama's people said.
"The brief article in the Calgary Herald was written by Bloomberg News, which surveyed oil analysts and traders and found that U.S. crude oil supplies were at the highest level in four months "as refineries used less crude because of weakening gasoline demand and closures for maintenance." Bloomberg mentioned that Hess and PBF "have curtailed processing" without further explanation. "
The fact that the donor's company "closed two refineries" which was only "partially offset" by opening one had no effect? Really?
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#6New Post! Jun 02, 2012 @ 17:56:19
@shinobinoz Said

It's so full of double speak:
Calling it "the exact opposite" it states
"The Energy Information Administration credits PBF Energy for preventing a price spike in the Northeast this year by opening a refinery in Delaware — partially offsetting the loss of production from two other Philadelphia-area refineries that have closed ."

"O'Malley indeed gave $100,000 on Feb. 7 to the pro-Mitt Romney super PAC Restore Our Future, although that pales next to the $3 million given by Houston builder Bob Perry, who isn't on Obama's list."
What does that have to do with anything?

"It's also true that there was a storage tank leak at PBF's Paulsboro, N.J., refinery on Feb. 24 that resulted in a spill of approximately 157,000 barrels of oil, which is equal to about 6.6 million gallons. For the record, PBF identifies itself as the nation's fifth largest petroleum refining company, not the fourth, in a May 14 registration statement filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission as part of its plan to go public."
How forget that it is true they had a big spill- they got the company's place wrong!!!!!!

The cost did go up as Obama's people said.
"The brief article in the Calgary Herald was written by Bloomberg News, which surveyed oil analysts and traders and found that U.S. crude oil supplies were at the highest level in four months "as refineries used less crude because of weakening gasoline demand and closures for maintenance." Bloomberg mentioned that Hess and PBF "have curtailed processing" without further explanation. "
The fact that the donor's company "closed two refineries" which was only "partially offset" by opening one had no effect? Really?



You know , sometimes it's just amusing as hell to watch Obama's supporters and his naysayers get muddy.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#7New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 00:42:32
@white_swan53 Said

You know , sometimes it's just amusing as hell to watch Obama's supporters and his naysayers get muddy.


Pointing out their fallacies is not the same thing as digging up dirt.
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#8New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 01:33:37
@shinobinoz Said

Pointing out their fallacies is not the same thing as digging up dirt.



I waited and waited and then I waited some more but danged if there aren't any facts or links for showing that your arguments against Fact check is right wrong or indifferent,,
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#9New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 08:27:28
@white_swan53 Said

I waited and waited and then I waited some more but danged if there aren't any facts or links for showing that your arguments against Fact check is right wrong or indifferent,,


It was in my reply. I highlited the sections which was their own words where appropriate and the other statements were using their facts that stand on their own. No need to wait any further. Try reading though.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#10New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 08:28:52
But you should feel free to point out where you find me wrong!
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#11New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 08:55:49
@shinobinoz Said

But you should feel free to point out where you find me wrong!



my computer is so slow tonite that I am not inclined to go clicking all over that article waiting for the new page to load then reading then more clicking and waiting ,,,,
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#12New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 09:15:53
@shinobinoz Said

But you should feel free to point out where you find me wrong!



just skimming over the article and then reading what you say.

You are not providing anything that is in contrast to what the article says. You agree with every fact and every thing that is proven to have happened.

You agree that yes there was a fire and yes there was a leaky tank. And yes O'Malley did etc...

but you don't touch any of the parts where the article is saying Obama team lied.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#13New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 17:20:48
@white_swan53 Said

just skimming over the article and then reading what you say.

You are not providing anything that is in contrast to what the article says. You agree with every fact and every thing that is proven to have happened.

You agree that yes there was a fire and yes there was a leaky tank. And yes O'Malley did etc...

but you don't touch any of the parts where the article is saying Obama team lied.


What parts that PROVE that his team lied?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#14New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 17:21:14
@white_swan53 Said

my computer is so slow tonite that I am not inclined to go clicking all over that article waiting for the new page to load then reading then more clicking and waiting ,,,,


Not my fault sis!
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#15New Post! Jun 03, 2012 @ 19:09:27
@shinobinoz Said

Not my fault sis!



I never said it was your fault , all I said is that I'm going to blame you .
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