Animal Rights, Animal Welfare: not the same thing

Animal Rights v Animal Welfare: Making the Case.
Gary Francione. May 2008.

Part 1. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2721796526091492210

2. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1633985562537306696

3. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9106601540709265453

4. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3414642878287549702

5. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5559474223740795355

6. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7506037695036191060

7. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6936028460955104159

8. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5720525964891444892

9. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6618346319357088477

10. https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=716462082428275303

you don't seriously expect people to watch each of those videos without any summary from you do you? Hell, even with a summary, many people's internet connection is too slow to watch videos.

I was thinking it, I wasn't brave enough to say it though

i saw the links and turned away.

Most people with an internet connection these days should have good enough connections to watch a freaking video. Unless we've suddenly warped back to 1999 when everyone had dial up?

times are hard, I can't afford internet at home I've gotta get online at work and because there's so many employees using it all at once it's impossible to enjoy any type of media. And if I did get internet I would have to get the slowest speed which can get aggravating. I'll die before I go back to dial up though.

Doesn't "animal welfarism v animal rights" serve as a summary? These are terms that are looselt banded about by "animal rights groups" but they are very different ideas.

Most people (and animal advocates) follow versions of animal welfarism regardless of what they call themselves. These videos explore such ideas. For those who cannot watch videos, this site contains a huge number of texts on the same subject: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/

rogY

Of course they are 2 different things animal welfare is about lessening suffering like passing laws about how animals should be treated like e.g. puppy farms. The RSPCA is an animal welfare organisation that is hand in glove with the meat industry.But to appeal to the British animal welfarist loving person trys to make the meat industry seem better it has its freedom food farms were animals are given the 5 freedoms to live a more "natrual" life supposedly. Animal welfare allows for animals to be experimented on as long as the cage is big enough and pain relief is given. Animal welfare allows the exsistance of zoos, circus fur farms ect. Animal rights people want an end to all these things thats why AR people get called extremists and fanatics.