A new state of South California? eh???

@hoppy Said

Sell California, Oregon and Washington to Canada. California's a drag on the rest of the country and they all vote 'crat anyway.

@El_Tino Said

Then where will Kentucky and Alabama get all their federal tax dollars from?

@hoppy Said

It'll even out.

@JuanSmith Said

Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Stone apparently thinks... that the county lead a campaign for as many as 13 Southern California counties to secede from the state.

Stone said in a statement late Thursday that Riverside, Imperial, San Diego, Orange, San Bernardino, Kings, Kern, Fresno, Tulare, Inyo, Madera, Mariposa and Mono counties should form the new state of South California.

The creation of the new state would allow officials to focus on securing borders, balancing budgets, improving schools and creating a vibrant economy, he said.

“Our taxes are too high, our schools don’t educate our children well enough, unions and other special interests have more clout in the Legislature than the general public,” Stone said in his statement.
Officials Call For 13 Southern California Counties to Secede

The story goes on to say a spokesperson was calling this a distraction. blah blah blah.

I've talked to a few of my friends who still live in Souther California and they of course for the most part all for it... with the exception of a few.

Any way, I'm not sure what exactly this would accomplish really. most of those counties are very barren; miles of what many consider wasteland.
To me the idea the guy has in his head may seem sound.. but I think more people would be affected negatively as a result.
It's not necessarily the same as creating a new country but pretty close I'd think.

@El_Tino Said

For every dollar in federal taxes paid... https://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
...California gets $0.78
...Oregon gets $0.93
...Washington gets $0.88
They pay into the system!

What are the reddest states? https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/the-five-reddest-states/
...Alaska gets $1.84
...Idaho gets $1.21
...Oklahoma gets $1.36
...Utah gets $1.07
...Wyoming gets $1.11
They are LEECHING off everyone else. Go figure! Without the west coast red states would be screwed!

@El_Tino Said

For every dollar in federal taxes paid... https://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
...California gets $0.78
...Oregon gets $0.93
...Washington gets $0.88
They pay into the system!

What are the reddest states? https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/the-five-reddest-states/
...Alaska gets $1.84
...Idaho gets $1.21
...Oklahoma gets $1.36
...Utah gets $1.07
...Wyoming gets $1.11
They are LEECHING off everyone else. Go figure! Without the west coast red states would be screwed!

@hoppy Said

Interesting. Thanks.

@hoppy Said

The states you say are leeching off everyone else have much smaller populations. So, maybe if those states you mentioned cram several millions more libs, yuppies and burnouts in them, it'll even out.

@boxerdc Said

It's that the republicans are socialists plain and simple.. They take from the rich liberals and give to the poor conservatives. Then they complain that the rich liberals aren't giving enough..

@crazylikeafox Said

Or perhaps there's just no such thing as Red States and Blue States.

@boxerdc Said



Dunno...

Just look at Alaska and Hawaii..