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doubtingthomas On April 26, 2010
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Monterey, California
#106New Post! Jan 25, 2009 @ 17:59:51
Step 1!

Habeas corpus Lat. "you have the body"
A writ of habeas corpus is a judicial mandate to a prison official ordering that an inmate be brought to the court so it can be determined whether or not that person is imprisoned lawfully and whether or not he should be released from custody.


All of the following steps are meaningless unless step 1 is first handled. These people have never had thier day in court to defend agenst the charges made agenst them, due process never happened!

THESE ARE PEOPLE!!! TREAT THEM LIKE PEOPLE!

Look at the quotes from people who would agree with me.

Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. ~Abraham Lincoln

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it. ~Thomas Paine

This one especially!!!
No man can put a chain about the ankle of his fellow man without at last finding the other end fastened about his own neck. ~Frederick Douglass, speech, Civil Rights Mass Meeting, Washington, D.C., 1883

Because to detain these PEOPLE without due process or the writ of Habeas Corpus is SLAVERY!

Call it what it is.

A spade by any other name is still a spade!

Know your history people, and don't repeat it no matter how scared you may be.
crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#107New Post! Jan 25, 2009 @ 20:03:43
But they weren't arrested off the streets of New York, Doubtingthomas. They were taken off the battle field. If anything, they would be POW's. Habeas Corpus doesn't apply to POW's. Incidently, that's also why this situation is so problematic, because while they're closer to POW's than to arrested civilians, they don't quite fit into THAT category either. Habeas Corpus still doesn't apply, but what DOES apply is up to debate.
doubtingthomas On April 26, 2010
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Monterey, California
#108New Post! Jan 25, 2009 @ 20:11:13
@crazylikeafox Said

But they weren't arrested off the streets of New York, Doubtingthomas. They were taken off the battle field. If anything, they would be POW's. Habeas Corpus doesn't apply to POW's. Incidently, that's also why this situation is so problematic, because while they're closer to POW's than to arrested civilians, they don't quite fit into THAT category either. Habeas Corpus still doesn't apply, but what DOES apply is up to debate.



Point taken.

But before you say they are POWs. What war and what battle field where they taken from. No declaration of war was ever signed so no war ever existed. If they are from Iraq they should be treated as POWs in the Iraq war and released when that war is over.

Because the people may want to kill us, or even have detailed plains to kill us. Does not give us the right to detain them indefinatly.

You need to say they are POWs or Civilians. You need someone familiar with international law address these questions. And this needs to be done in a non-bias international court. No matter what thier status... Habaus Corpus applys...because its not just a american right. All around the world people have the right to ask thier jailer "why and for how long" they will be imprisioned.

To do any different would make these people slaves to thier captors and not people.

You can't simply say they don't apply because thats having your cake and eating it too.
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