Guilty until proven innocent

I Am Rogue!

A Small Town, Texas

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:15:58

Dr. Sam Sheppard Trials

"On July 4, 1954, the wife of a handsome young doctor, Sam Sheppard, was brutally murdered in the bedroom of their home in Bay Village, Ohio, on the shore of Lake Erie. Sheppard denied any involvement in the murder and described his own battle with the killer he described as "bushy-haired.""

Dr. Sheppard spent 12 years in prison. He was released after a retrial in 1966. His medical practice never got off the ground and he died from alcohol abuse 6 years later.

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KAMPA

Admiral Karl Donuts

Uhlan Bator, Mongolia

#3

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:17:37

That has always been the main arguement against the death penalty, how many innocents have been put to death, we shall never know!

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Edited: July 11, 2010 @ 19:18

gingernproud

In need of a dunkin.

Doncaster, United Kingdom

#4

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:17:39

I don't have a case i could mention off the top of my head but i do agree with a death penalty but only for mass murderers were there's d.n.a evidence so there is no mistake.i believe all other cases should be life but life meaning life if found guilty and not 13 years..

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Mysteria

I Am Rogue!

A Small Town, Texas

#5

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:22:51

The men I posted about weren't sentenced to death, but other members have mentioned innocent people who have been.

There's another man I wanted to add to the list. I just can't think of his name right now. His gf shot herself to death and he was charged with murder. He spent two years and 10 days in prison before forensic science proved her death was self inflicted.

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KAMPA

Admiral Karl Donuts

Uhlan Bator, Mongolia

#6

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:26:05

Even now prosecutors have been loath to accept evidence of innocence, but if there is DNA in the case they have no choice!

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KAMPA

Admiral Karl Donuts

Uhlan Bator, Mongolia

#7

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:27:36

@gingernproud Said

I don't have a case i could mention off the top of my head but i do agree with a death penalty but only for mass murderers were there's d.n.a evidence so there is no mistake.i believe all other cases should be life but life meaning life if found guilty and not 13 years..

My opinion is that a lifetime in prison is worse than death!

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cisslybee2012

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Bronx, New York

#8

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:36:57

Well... I don't ponder much over a person's innocence, because there's no telling of the true whole story. But I am 110% against capital punishment for that same reason, and mainly because it serves no purpose.

It in no way decreases the percentage of homicides, and we're going to pass anyway, so angry people who feel like hurting someone know that and don't mind going at all. Most of all, it leaves no opportunity for growth. For the perp to look back on his/her crime and realize that what they did was unnecessary.

To me, capital punishment is simply a hypocritical act. The murderer killing the murderer.

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cisslybee2012

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Bronx, New York

#9

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:38:51

@KAMPA Said

My opinion is that a lifetime in prison is worse than death!

There you go!

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KAMPA

Admiral Karl Donuts

Uhlan Bator, Mongolia

#10

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:41:03

It has never been a derrent to others,if they are going to kill,they will do it death penalty or no!

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gingernproud

In need of a dunkin.

Doncaster, United Kingdom

#11

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:44:14

@KAMPA Said

My opinion is that a lifetime in prison is worse than death!

Yes your right it would be,i just don't see no point in giving a mass murderer the opportunity to re offend and believe the death penalty in these cases guarantees they wont and cant.
to me its the protection of others rather than punishment of the murderer.
i don't believe mass murderers can be rehabilitated as from what ive read even if there is no sexual contact ,a mass murderer kills for the sexual high and sexual preferences cant be changed.id also give the same sentence to d.n.a proved repeated child sex offenders also,if it was upto me.

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LuckyCharms

Magically Delicious

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#12

Jul 11, 2010 @ 19:57:19

Well, there are certain cases where I'd like to see the death penalty used. Serial murderers, serial rapists and pedophiles (that have acted on those impulses). Problem is that it's so damned expensive. It's actually cheaper to pay for those SOB's to be in jail for their entire lifetime than it is to carry out the death penalty on them. But in my opinion, those groups have lost the right to process oxygen. As much as I hate to say it, the wild west had it right when they'd just take them out back and give them some ventilation.

I realize it's not a very civilized position, however it would prevent them from ever creating any more victims or ruining any more lives.

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Mysteria

I Am Rogue!

A Small Town, Texas

#13

Jul 11, 2010 @ 20:15:39

@gingernproud Said

Yes your right it would be,i just don't see no point in giving a mass murderer the opportunity to re offend and believe the death penalty in these cases guarantees they wont and cant.
to me its the protection of others rather than punishment of the murderer.
i don't believe mass murderers can be rehabilitated as from what ive read even if there is no sexual contact ,a mass murderer kills for the sexual high and sexual preferences cant be changed.id also give the same sentence to d.n.a proved repeated child sex offenders also,if it was upto me.

@LuckyCharms Said

Well, there are certain cases where I'd like to see the death penalty used. Serial murderers, serial rapists and pedophiles (that have acted on those impulses). Problem is that it's so damned expensive. It's actually cheaper to pay for those SOB's to be in jail for their entire lifetime than it is to carry out the death penalty on them. But in my opinion, those groups have lost the right to process oxygen. As much as I hate to say it, the wild west had it right when they'd just take them out back and give them some ventilation.

I realize it's not a very civilized position, however it would prevent them from ever creating any more victims or ruining any more lives.

If these guys were made to serve their entire lives in prison, I'd be happy with no death penalty. Prison overcrowding is what's always kept me on the fence. I haven't voted yet, but seeing at least 3 cases of innocent men being punished with life sentences (and the way it affected their lives) on TV in the last week has sickened me.

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gingernproud

In need of a dunkin.

Doncaster, United Kingdom

#14

Jul 11, 2010 @ 20:33:46

@Mysteria Said

If these guys were made to serve their entire lives in prison, I'd be happy with no death penalty. Prison overcrowding is what's always kept me on the fence. I haven't voted yet, but seeing at least 3 cases of innocent men being punished with life sentences (and the way it affected their lives) on TV in the last week has sickened me.

im with you on this and im only for it in cases were there is no room for error because of d.n.a evidence and if it is a multiple offender,as
i believe there's no chance of rehabilitation.

as even one innocent person going to death row is one to many also i.m.o
the advances we've made in forensic science has made it possible in some cases to prove without a shadow of a doubt they have the right person.
its these cases and only these cases i believe the death sentence should be carried out.

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Mysteria

I Am Rogue!

A Small Town, Texas

#15

Jul 11, 2010 @ 20:43:26

@gingernproud Said

im with you on this and im only for it in cases were there is no room for error because of d.n.a evidence and if it is a multiple offender,as
i believe there's no chance of rehabilitation.

I agree with your last sentence especially. Serial criminals never stop even if they go for years without offending.

@gingernproud Said

as even one innocent person going to death row is one to many also i.m.o

That's how I feel. I'm so glad the first man I posted about didn't get the death penalty. That would have been a tragedy.

@gingernproud Said

the advances we've made in forensic science has made it possible in some cases to prove without a shadow of a doubt they have the right person.
its these cases and only these cases i believe the death sentence should be carried out.

In some cases, evidence taken from the scene of a crime is proven to be the suspect's DNA with ratios of up to millions to one. That along with wounds they sustain from attacking someone show the DNA test to be accurate. So again, I agree with you.

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