Analysis: Wrestling with how to talk about race

One struggle is how to hold Obama accountable for his words and actions - or even talk about his policies - without risk of being called racist.

Could the risk of being called a racist end up muzzling debate if people don't dare voice their concerns?


https://apnews.myway.com/article/20090926/D9AV3D7O0.html

when I first read this , I found myself getting angry .
Here we taken a giant step forward as a nation (yes we have many more to take) and we find our selves walking on egg shells being afraid of saying what needs to be said the wrong way , and obviously we don't know the right way to say what needs to be said because we got people sitting around Analysing each word .
You know if you think about it , how the hell can anyone in Washington hope to get anything done if they have to sit around waiting for some Analysis to weigh each word before it can be said.
I'm sure there has always been Analysis to write speeches for politicians to use when some head of another country was coming here or our guy was going there ect... but now it is being done so Americans can talk to Americans. Just how damn sad is this ??
And damned if there ain't them hate mongers with nothing better to do but think up ways to spout their BS , jumping on piddly s*** like Obama going to a grade school to talk to some kids. when they start spouting crapola , the speech went back to be re written carefully - not so no ones feelings would be hurt or insulted. But so them spouting idiot es wouldn't have anything thing to attack Obama over '. the reason the speech had to be re done was cux them spouters were yelling that Obama was trying to brainwash or indoctrinate them kids with his politics. I mean come on really, how does anything have a chance in hell of getting down if this is the way it's going to be? If people don't snap ain't nothing gonna get done about fixing our problems if we can't figure out how to communicate . And the question that begs to be ask is "who's behind this ' or whats the cause of it .

"Are there people out there who don't like me because of race? I'm sure there are," Obama says. But he rejects the notion that racism is even partly behind his critics' attacks, as a growing chorus of Democrats have claimed.


Indeed. He's absolutely right.

It's my opinion that the viciousness of the anti-Obama crowd is fueled in part by racism.

I don't think that there are many people who dislike Obama simply because of his race.

But his race is a complicating factor.


But do we really need four active threads about this topic?!

No. It's quite obvious that none of Obama's critics are taking that accusation seriously and are going to carry on complaining about everything he does in spite of it.

People have always complained about what President's do. This President just happens to be black. People who disagree with his policies would still be complaining regardless of his ethnicity.

Yes, we do, imho, anything that is on a member's mind that he or she is willing to be critiqued about .... can be ('needs' to be) on
TFS or any other public forum type communication. Isn't that what 'they' are all about, anyways?

They have, they do, and they will. But this is the first time
the complaining has been complicated by race - with him being black and all! imho.

The main reason I put this 'active thread' in the rants and raves forums is because the topic really pisses me off on a personal level and anyone inclined to argue about anything I post , would go play somewhere else.
Oh well it's all about on a public forum we all are agreeing to be disagreed with .

There are 3 other active threads about' how American needing to analysis the words we use' makes the OP angry ? Cool. I wonder way they haven't been merged ?






I wonder what would happen if they just stopped waisting all that time worrying about what Obama's critics are going to say (because it seems they are going to say it no matter what words are used) and just get on with trying to do what they been elected to do . There never has been a president in office that wasn't complained about by critics . He was able to withstand the criticism during his run for president and was elected ,so why worry so much about what the critics say now ?

No one's worried about it. People are just talking about it because it's an interesting phenomenon.

No one in Obama's government is wasting any time thinking or talking about it.

(quoted from the site linked to in OP)

Well thats good to know, thanks.

The "site listed in the OP" is an editorial. It's not news or fact. It hasn't been a distraction for anyone but talk show hosts and internet forums.

Thank you yet again.
I don't find anywhere that anyone said anything about what the site is or isn't. Well except you in your last post. I may be wrong but it is under the news tab on the site I linked to and I googled the title and it came up on the cbs news under news and the The Associated Press shows it as news. But since no one has mentioned it I guess it's really just your issue. I found the site when I clicked on a link in one of your threads where you had used the link to the site in your thread as facts and news, I figured if I used that site for my info no one would question my info. But hey I've been wrong before .

My take on things like this are as follows,

I say what i want to say and if someone wishes to brand me a racist, fu#k them!

Sometimes a person well be branded a racist for saying they ain't racist ?
But as I said ,Obama withstood all the mud slinging and back stabbing during the run for office and got elected . If his critics are going to spout crap at him anyways IMO he should just get on with the job he said he could do when he was run for election . All a lot of people want him to prove is that he can that job.

But what if the things you want to say are racist? Do you not care, and will you say "f*** you" to anyone who calls it as it is?>