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Ratty On November 08, 2021




So Cal, California
#841New Post! Feb 18, 2017 @ 04:20:29
Soccer sucks.

LOL, Just kidding, I know the rest of the world loves that sport, Americans are just sorta blah about it. LOL.
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#842New Post! Feb 18, 2017 @ 17:02:34
Millwall, who played much of the second half with just 10 men, have knocked a sorry Leicester out of the FA Cup. If last season was a fairytale for the Foxes this season has been a nightmare.
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#843New Post! Feb 18, 2017 @ 17:05:06
The remarkable run of non-league side Lincoln has continued as they defeated Burnley to reach the quarter-finals. In doing so they have become the first non-league side to reach the last eight since QPR in 1914!
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#844New Post! Feb 18, 2017 @ 17:07:33
Hoping The Dees can spring a bit of an upset tomorrow.
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#845New Post! Feb 20, 2017 @ 01:37:26
Good results overnight with the dons getting out of gaol and the dees knocking over the zombies.
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#846New Post! Feb 20, 2017 @ 04:27:34
@shadowen Said

The remarkable run of non-league side Lincoln has continued as they defeated Burnley to reach the quarter-finals. In doing so they have become the first non-league side to reach the last eight since QPR in 1914!



Perhaps they can emulate the achievement of Tottenham Hotspur. Now that really would be something.
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#847New Post! Feb 20, 2017 @ 05:30:34
There has been a great deal of hype about the FA Cup results of the weekend, mostly driven by TV looking to glamourise this season's somewhat devalued competition.

Lincoln City's achievement truly was remarkable, but when we look a little closer, then perhaps other results weren't the "miracles" they're being written up as.

Manchester City made nine changes to their line up for their match against Huddersfield, and clearly have the Champions League on their mind. They face Monaco in the Round of 16 on Tuesday.... a match they will undoubtedly see as being for more important.

Much has been made of the way that Oxford ran Middlesbrough close on Saturday, but again, 'boro fielded a greatly reduced team and will clearly be more focused on the Premier League. They currently lie in 16th place, just two points off the relegation zone. 'boro were 2-0 up against Oxford, looking comfortable and lost concentration for a couple of minutes which allowed the U's back into the game, but 'boro still found enough to win the game. It wasn't really as close as it's being made up to be.

Millwall beating Leicester was actually quite predictable. Leicester are struggling in the league, made ten changes to their line up for the game and also have the distraction of the Champions League coming up this week. In the bigger picture, Leicester won't be sorry to be out of the FA Cup. Filberts Fans with a long memory will remember that in 1969 (the last time they reached the final), their cup run was blamed for them being relegated that season. They wouldn't have wanted to do that again.

Winning the cup is a big prize on the telly, but who wants to "Do a Wigan"?

It's telling that Neil Harris, manager of Millwall, when asked who he would like to get in the quarter final, replied "Anybody, as long as we're at home." And there is the nub of it with Millwall. In cup competitions, on their own patch, Millwall are almost like the Wimbledon of the 1980's and 90's (only without the cast of loveable rogues and cheeky scallywags. Millwall are a club of very un-loveable hooligans). Having to face the "Crazy Gang" at Plough Lane was the last draw you wanted to come out of the hat. Millwall - "Nobody-Likes-Us-and-We-Don't-Care" - Are a tough proposition at home. But take them out of Bermondsey and they are very beatable.

They're in League One for a reason.

It is true that they have beaten three Premier League teams in this season's cup competition, but Bournemouth, Watford and Leicester City are all teams that are struggling to stave off relegation and are focused on retaining their Premier League place. All of them fielded greatly depleted teams and all the matches were played at Millwall's ground.

These weren't cup "Shocks"... the outcome of those games were all too predictable.

Millwall will be away at Spurs in the Quarter Final. Let's see how that game goes.

Other matches in the cup this weekend saw Blackburn comfortably beaten by a Manchester United team that didn't really have to work all that hard to win. The score was only 2-1, but in truth, United never had to get out of second gear to win. They played in cruise control and did enough. Job done.

Spurs put Fulham to the sword, again, winning easily enough without busting a gut.

As for Sutton United, well, they face Arsenal on the plastic pitch at Gander Green Lane tonight. We're already bored witless with the countless re-runs we're being shown of Sutton beating (then first division) Coventry City in 1989. Auntie Beeb really are kicking the arse out of that piece of historic footage. The plastic pitch, a partisan home crowd and an Arsenal team with multiple 2nd XI players fielded will surely encourage Sutton.

But if you're expecting a (3-2-1, all together now....) "Shock", then you put your mortgage on it if you want to. I'll keep my money for another day, thanks.


The media are constantly hyping every match where a lower league team is drawn against Premier League opposition. They send their cameras to every match hoping for a cup "shock" (the most over-used word in football right now). And the relentless hype has become tedious.

But given the overwhelming importance of staying in the Premier League and the looming shadow of the Champions League, it can be no surprise that almost every EPL club playing in the cup is fielding vastly weakened teams. The results we are seeing are not "upsets" or "shocks" of any stripe. They are the all too predictable consequence of top flight clubs being not really bothered whether they stay in the cup or not.

The FA Cup has become a devalued competition. Oh, for sure, those reserve team players who are involved in FA Cup matches play to win and inevitably there will be four semi finalists. If they're one of them, then fine. If not, nobody will really give a damn.

Those top flight teams who do manage to lurch into the later stages might become more interested once their priority of avoiding relegation / qualifying for next season's ECL / being in the mix for the EPL title / whatever.... is more assured by the time they reach the semi final. Their best players will get interested in playing when there's a "shop window" for them to perform in. An FA Cup winners medal never did a player's transfer valuation or contract negotiations any harm.

Wanna play in the 3rd round, Mesut..? Nah. Wanna play in the final Mr deBruyne..? Oh, yes please.

And therein lies the reason for all those 3rd, 4th and 5th round "shocks". The FA Cup doesn't really start until the Quarter Finals.

Sixth Round draw in full:

Chelsea v Manchester United
Middlesbrough v Huddersfield or Manchester City
Tottenham v Millwall
Sutton or Arsenal v Lincoln City
LordGnome On February 24, 2017




Dayn Sayth, United Kingdom
#848New Post! Feb 20, 2017 @ 13:55:55
my Jennifer, you do make your point don't you. actually that was quite an interesting read and I found myself agreeing with nearly all of it. what I really hate is the way these foreigners cant stand an English winter. they come here and get completely taken by surprise in January and febuary. I noticed you singled out ozil and debruyne and I can see why. two cherry pickers who only play when they feel like it until it gets nice and warm again. they are agitating for a winter break. we don't do winter breaks here. we have winter fixture congestion and its been like it for 140 years. get used to it I say. unfortunately now emirates own the fa cup we are being softened up for abolishing replays and having the premier league teams seeded so they will only get soft home matches against no hopers. I have even heard they want the premier leaguers to get a bye to the fourth round. it was always going to happen. emirates are said to be spitting mad that manyoo and Chelsea are playing each other in the quarter final. that was the match they wanted to be the final. I think the days of the cup draw are numbered.
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#849New Post! Feb 21, 2017 @ 01:28:39
Unfortunately the huge amount of money in the EPL (and even the championship) mean that clubs in the top two tiers don't focus on the FA Cup in the way that they once did. Not only do the top EPL teams, and those facing relegation, consistently field second string teams but so too those who are mid table. These teams have no realistic chance of qualifying for Europe and are in no perceivable threat of relegation and yet they are putting out second string sides simply because, from a monetary point of view, it's often better to finish even one place higher in the EPL than it is to win the FA Cup. For example, finish 9th and you 'win' £124 million, finish 10th and the figure is £118 million. Win the FA Cup, you get £1.8m.

What's even worse is that we have been seeing mid table championship sides also fielding second string teams.

One thing that I think needs to happen is for progress in the FA Cup to be worth more to clubs. Money talks and it's not as if the FA are struggling for a quid. If nothing changes the FA will continue to lose it's importance and relevance to many and that would be a shame.
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#850New Post! Feb 21, 2017 @ 18:00:59
The FA is the controlling body for football in England. It is the only association recognised by EUFA and FIFA. All players must be registered with the FA or they cannot legally play for any English club or team.

The FA is the owner of the Premier League and although it is not involved in the day to day operation of the league, it is the special shareholder and has a veto over appointments and proposed changes to the rules of the competition. The FA also controls the England team and is the only body authorised by EUFA and FIFA to provide referees and other match officials.

The FA is not irrelevant.

It might be possible for some clubs to break away and form their own league and possibly even strike their own TV deal, but that league, and by extension the clubs that play in it, would then not be recognised by UEFA or FIFA which would mean exclusion from UEFA sanctioned competitions such as the Champions League.

The players who played in that league would not be eligible to play for any national team and would therefore be excluded from FIFA and UEFA sanctioned competitions such as the World Cup and European Championship.

OK... so much for that.

The situation with disparity of prize money between the FA Cup and Premier League is well known, but as usual, you fail to understand the importance that the English place on history, tradition and our treasured footballing / sporting institutions.

The problem doesn't lie with the English people in our game, it lies in the foreign influence. Many clubs are now owned by foreign based organisations / cartels / oligarchs. The club managers are overwhelmingly foreign and most clubs and teams have more than 50% of their regular playing staff not qualified for England. These people have no interest whatsoever in what makes our game "English". They are in it only for the money.

We have a minority stake in the game in our own country and the way we play the game has become unrecognisable from what it was pre-EPL. That rankles greatly with many English fans outside of the elite group at the top of the Premier League who admittedly don't want to go back to crumbling stadiums, hooliganism and inefficient management, but do want our distinctive, "English" way of playing the game back, being reliant on our own talent and not being just a cash cow for foreign mercenaries.

Since EPL, our game has become a hybrid variant of other leagues in Europe. We play a continental style now. Our distinctive style of play has been subsumed. No longer the fast paced, muscular confrontation where physical contact was allowed and willingly engaged in by players on both sides, in a game that had less reliance on tactical formations and players who are constrained by a tight strategic framework.

Traditionally we breed players who are to be able to think on their feet and adapt to a changing situation in a match... we used to breed maverick players who played instinctively and could take a game by the scruff of its neck. No more. Every player has to play within the strategy set down by the coach. Do nothing that will alter the "team shape." Do nothing unexpected or different than that which they are told to do.

The average English fan, of a club not involved at the top end of the EPL actually would like to see a stabilising of our game, realigning the way we play it with traditional values and thus restoring that unique "Englishness" to our national game. English teams, with English players, playing English football. We like the improved emphasis on skill and technique, but there should still be room for the traditional virtues of rolled up sleeves, hard graft in adversity and taking individual responsibility on the pitch when things aren't going well.

As one banner at a Championship stadium said recently "The skills are alright, but show us you can FIGHT"

And if you argue that a return to traditional values would affect our performances on the international stage, let me remind you that before the advent of the EPL, English clubs won the European Cup six seasons in a row in the 1970's and 80's. Since the EPL, we have won Europe's top prize only 4 times in more than 20 seasons.

Pre EPL, England won the FIFA World Cup once and reached the Semi Final in 1990. Since EPL, we have failed to reach the Semi Final at all. We didn't even make the knock out stage in 2014. Our performances in the European Championship have been risible.

England's national team has become a joke and the root cause of our lack of quality players to put on the white shirt is that it is extremely difficult for young English players to get into the top club sides. The top teams simply import foreign superstars to fill their teams. Chelsea and Arsenal have on many occasions fielded teams with no England qualified players on the field at all. This is clearly not good for our national team.

If English football's only purpose is to make money, then it is a highly successful enterprise. UEFA will continue to give England 4 clubs in the Champions League, if only because the television and gambling revenues will justify it. But is that what sport is about..? Not according to my set of values it isn't.

All the time the TV companies are interested, and the gambling organisations rake in vast sums from in-play betting, the EPL will be riding high. All the time the money flows in, the foreigners will come.

But domestically, our sporting values will be fatally undermined, our history subsumed by commercial interests and our young people (as they are already doing) will abandon attempts to make a career in football, choosing other sports instead where they might have a realistic prospect of a future. Rugby Union is rapidly gaining ground on football as a participation sport for young people in England. Athletics, gymnastics, rowing and cycling are attracting young people in huge numbers off the back of recent Olympic success in those areas.

it is probable that in time, the FA Cup will be a dead duck and our national team will slide down the FIFA rankings until it is becomes a third division European nation on a par with Norway, Albania and Moldova. And when that happens, the owners, fans and players at the top EPL clubs won't give a damn.

Some of us don't want that to happen. Football..... indeed, sport itself....... is supposed to be about more than money. That's where I'm coming from.
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#851New Post! Feb 22, 2017 @ 01:39:21
"...as usual, you fail to understand the importance that the English place on history, tradition and our treasured footballing / sporting institutions.

The problem doesn't lie with the English people in our game, it lies in the foreign influence. Many clubs are now owned by foreign based organisations / cartels / oligarchs. The club managers are overwhelmingly foreign and most clubs and teams have more than 50% of their regular playing staff not qualified for England. These people have no interest whatsoever in what makes our game "English". They are in it only for the money"

shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#852New Post! Feb 22, 2017 @ 01:42:06
Difficult to believe the naivety/stupidity of Wayne Shaw
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#853New Post! Feb 23, 2017 @ 01:00:31
The sun is shining on Leith after Hibs enjoyed a good win over the jambos.
shadowen On March 22, 2024




Bunyip Bend, Australia
#854New Post! Feb 23, 2017 @ 23:16:20
No surprise at all to learn that Claudio Ranieri has been sacked by Leicester. It's a shame but the clubs performances outside of Europe have been poor and the workrate of the players in domestic matches has at times been shameful.

N'Golo Kante was a huge blow but really it's the overall effort of the players that has hurt the most. They put in when playing in the CL and then go missing domestically.

It is a shame to see Claudio Ranieri go as he was quite a character and made a refreshing change from the likes of José Mourinho.
Ratty On November 08, 2021




So Cal, California
#855New Post! Feb 24, 2017 @ 07:28:24
I hear football is common here in south Los Angeles
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