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Anger
March 20, 2019 @ 04:30:45 pm

NOONE: Suppose that you were stretching and accidentally cold clocked someone nearby. Does that person not have the right to be angry at you for doing so, even if it was an accident?

Mike: I would say justified not a right. (I know semantics)

NOONE: …a person has the "right" to be angry at whatever they want to be angry at.

Mike: Hmmm Emote (exaggerated show of emotion) i.e., act out …I am not sure it would be a Right i.e., (consistent with generally held ideas of proper conduct)

…Anger happens. I can see that an angry person might control or attempt to control their anger but such a person cannot, as I understand it, control automatic responses. If I am wrong in this assumption please explain why.

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Erimitus

New Post! March 20, 2019 @ 04:40:42 pm
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If I may indulge my penchant for definition Anger is an emotion (i.e., a strong feeling of displeasure). I would say people have no control over how they feel but they can control how they respond to how they feel. There are degrees of anger. Annoyance, I suppose, is socially acceptable but rage and antagonism are not.


chaski

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New Post! March 20, 2019 @ 11:23:42 pm
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@Erimitus Said


…Anger happens. I can see that an angry person might control or attempt to control their anger but such a person cannot, as I understand it, control automatic responses. If I am wrong in this assumption please explain why.



I think emotions in general, and anger more specifically, can be controlled.

It takes some more practice than others.

And some don't care to control their anger... something happens and they default to anger... sometimes even raging anger.

Example:

In my past for a few years I let bad drivers anger me. Someone would cut me off in traffic and I would be angered... almost enraged. I never chased anyone down on the highway, but I certainly wanted to.

Then one day someone cut me off in traffic. I wasn't just angry, was seeing red with rage. I snapped out of it and pulled my car over. I literally thought to myself Holy s*** Chaski! What the hell is happening to you!?

You see, I realized that the dumb a** who cut me off was just a reckless dumb ass. He wasn't targeting me personally. IT wasn't about me. He was just a dumb ass. I was letting myself get angry. I was letting myself lose control. If I didn't get control, it could go too far one day and I might actually be the one hurting someone... but on purpose.

Relative to driving and traffic: I have never allowed my emotions to reach the level of anger ever again. Since that time I have twice been rear ended and once (four-wheeling) I was force off a road by a completely reckless jackass who apparently knew nothing of off-roading etiquette.

Have I been frustrated? Yes.

Have I been shocked? Yes.

But I do not get angry any more.

I put 'it" in its place and let it go.

Yes... it took time, energy, focus, practice...

Finally >>> Things like surprise and shock are more like automatic responses. Anger is, IMO, not automatic... it might even be a learned behavior.


Erimitus

New Post! March 21, 2019 @ 05:29:44 pm
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@chaski Said

I think emotions in general, and anger more specifically, can be controlled.

It takes some more practice than others.

And some don't care to control their anger... something happens and they default to anger... sometimes even raging anger.

Example:

In my past for a few years I let bad drivers anger me. Someone would cut me off in traffic and I would be angered... almost enraged. I never chased anyone down on the highway, but I certainly wanted to.

Then one day someone cut me off in traffic. I wasn't just angry, was seeing red with rage. I snapped out of it and pulled my car over. I literally thought to myself Holy s*** Chaski! What the hell is happening to you!?

You see, I realized that the dumb a** who cut me off was just a reckless dumb ass. He wasn't targeting me personally. IT wasn't about me. He was just a dumb ass. I was letting myself get angry. I was letting myself lose control. If I didn't get control, it could go too far one day and I might actually be the one hurting someone... but on purpose.

Relative to driving and traffic: I have never allowed my emotions to reach the level of anger ever again. Since that time I have twice been rear ended and once (four-wheeling) I was force off a road by a completely reckless jackass who apparently knew nothing of off-roading etiquette.

Have I been frustrated? Yes.

Have I been shocked? Yes.

But I do not get angry any more.

I put 'it" in its place and let it go.

Yes... it took time, energy, focus, practice...

Finally >>> Things like surprise and shock are more like automatic responses. Anger is, IMO, not automatic... it might even be a learned behavior.



Control being the key word... Loss of self control can lead to problems.


Electric_Banana

New Post! March 21, 2019 @ 05:43:26 pm
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I'm pretty sure the reason that the 'bad' word exists

Anger is something which can trip unexpectedly without premeditation
We have all right to feel an emotion because have little control otherwise

But we wouldn't have the right to lash out violently unless in self-defence and so we grow learning how to control and direct our outbursts so that if someone accidentally bumps into us we can quickly assess their was no foul intended instead of immediately bumping back in reaction which would eventually establish a destructive force of habit.

Shouting a 'bad' word is often a good way of sharing the misery by upsetting someone else with the expression of a vulgarity while, at the same time, causing them no physical nor property damage.

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