"Post-digestive- nuggets"  Erimitus
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| How can you tell the difference between reality and illusion? | |
Eaglebauer
 Moderator | | Try licking it and see if it tastes real. |
gakINGKONG
| Reach out to the person who has consistently done the best at life. Take your ideas and ask them what they think.
That ought to get you closer to determining what is real. |
Erimitus
| @Eaglebauer Said 
Try licking it and see if it tastes real.
"I refute it thus" <<Johnson>> |
Erimitus
| | I suppose illusion is a kind of reality... |
Erimitus
| Sensory perception (I suppose) is at least partially illusion.
If that which I perceive is an accurate enough representation of my environment to increase the potential for survival it is real enough for me.
It is not unreasonable to consider the possibility that there is that which is other than me. My inclination is to accept that there is that which is other than me has a kind of existence. It might even be conscious. |
Eaglebauer
Moderator | @Erimitus Said
Sensory perception (I suppose) is at least partially illusion.
If that which I perceive is an accurate enough representation of my environment to increase the potential for survival it is real enough for me.
It is not unreasonable to consider the possibility that there is that which is other than me. My inclination is to accept that there is that which is other than me has a kind of existence. It might even be conscious.
I'm curious about the qualifier of increased potential for survival. What about my believed reality in the existence of the Eiffel Tower though I've never seen in person? It doesn't increase my potential for survival but I believe it.
Maybe I'm oversimplifying or misunderstanding your premise? |
mrmhead
| By Listening:
It's a tough call, but I like Reality better.
Pablo Picasso never got called an a*****e. |
twilitezone911
| How can you tell the difference between reality and illusion?
I sometimes wonder if the a difference with two stages. many ways are the same, because your mind's eye can see as both states.
also, your mind not sure how by intelligence within you. maybe, your senses by instincts can tell the differences. what you see can tricky by outside distractions like environment or personal conflicts.
the logical explanation just being rational and think the problem with a clear mind. |
mrmhead
| @Eaglebauer Said
I met Jonathan Richman and saw him live. I like him a lot. He's 66 and still childish in the ways that are good.
OK,
I learned something new today, I can go home now.
(I didn't realize Pablo Picasso was a cover)
Thanks!
...and in further reading:
On the album's title, Bowie said:
I feel that reality has become an abstract for so many people over the last 20 years. Things that they regarded as truths seem to have just melted away, and it's almost as if we're thinking post-philosophically now. There's nothing to rely on any more. No knowledge, only interpretation of those facts that we seem to be inundated with on a daily basis. Knowledge seems to have been left behind and there's a sense that we are adrift at sea. There's nothing more to hold on to, and of course political circumstances just push that boat further out |
chaski
Stalker
| | If you see "it" and none of the people around you see "it", you might be one of those people who get visions from god... or it might be an illusion. |
Erimitus
| Eagle: I'm curious about the qualifier of increased potential for survival.
E: All living things have some degree of sentience that supplies information about their environment. Awareness of its environment does not guarantee the survival of a living entity but it does increase the potential.
Eagle: [paraphrase] does a belief in the existence of a thing that has only been experience indirectly increase the potential for survival?
E: Yes, if the thing is in your environment. An example (admittedly a stretch) would be a person flying a helicopter in a fog. Knowing that there is a tower in the environment would increase the potential for survival. This scenario (though plausible) is not a very good example of what I mean.
E: If a person is about to step into the street and becomes aware that a speeding truck is going to be in the same space at the same time; being aware of the truck would increase the potential for survival.
E: If there is knowledge by indirect experience that there are pathogens, (even if the microbes have never been directly experienced) that knowledge could influence a decision to eat some old road kill and thereby increase the potential for survival.
E: What I was referring to in my post was immediate sensory perception of the immediate environment though indirect experience of the immediate environment could increase the potential for survival. And, I suppose, indirect experience of something that is not in the immediate environment could increase the potential for survival. For example an oncoming storm. |
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November 07, 2017 @ 01:15:00 pm
