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alexkidd On February 07, 2012
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#2New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 16:35:18
well thats not exactly true,
the west borough baptist church do not live according to the bible either.
nobody lives according to the bible.
its full of contradictions and its up to us to interpret.

a 'true christian' is one who accepts the churches interpretation on the bible and lives by that.
not someone who develops their own interpretation.
as with the westboroughs.

true it doesn't add up in practice, you can't quote the bible and then disregard other elements of it,
but people do.
thats what religion based on the bible is.
matzi1110 On October 04, 2014




, Michigan
#4New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 16:38:57
i brought this up onr time abou the whole homosexuality and to god apparently its just another sin, repent and change and he doesnt care.

but like there are plenty of other sexual sins that people just look over and dont care about thoes, you dont see people running around protesting people who have sex with everyone... but yet homosexuals get tons of s*** from the christians and other religions. to them it shouldnt be more then their own sins, and they should just live and let live.

you dont see people coming up and hounding you for everyone of your sins, if any of them for that matter. so what gives people the right to point out other peoples sins?

this has always been one of my problems with the church is they only touch on subjects that will get the most controversy, i mean hell look at the divorce rate, the church sure seems to be letting that one slide more often then not these days.

/rant
ShadyFx8 On October 11, 2017




cairns, Australia
#5New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 16:42:42
why do you focus on homosexuals?

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Why do you focus on homosexuals?
Homosexuality is due special attention by our ministry for several reasons. First, Paul the Apostle, sometimes called the Lion of Christ, who spoke as he was moved by the Holy Spirit, gave the sin of homosexuality special attention. It is important that you carefully read Romans 1, repeatedly. It is clear that on the ladder of human depravity, homosexuality is the bottom rung. By the time a person reaches the state of hard core, defiant, unrepentant, homosexual lifestyle, God has washed His hands of that person. God does not hate them because they are homosexuals; they are homosexuals because God hates them. That is an important distinction. Further, throughout the Old Testament, when the nation of Israel was in its worst spiritual condition, in full blown apostasy, the Bible makes a point of telling us that sodomy was one of the chief traits of society (see I Kings 14:24). Under the Law of Moses, the penalty for homosexuality was death. Further, sodomy is the only sin which caused God to rain fire from heaven on an entire 5-city population. So, we have a Bible basis for recognizing that homosexuality is a particularly heinous sin in the eyes of the God of Eternity.

Second, and perhaps in the immediate context more important, this is the sin that is at the forefront of the moral crisis in this nation. WE did not start the homosexual movement. WE did not put this movement on the front page of every major newspaper, in every phase of the entertainment industry, and in the schools. WE are not the ones insisting that this awful behavior serve as the basis for special legal rights. WE are not the ones marching up and down the streets demanding that people accept and respect us for our sins. This is the only sin to which America is seriously contemplating giving civil rights. Imagine if embezzlers, murderers or rapists demanded that they be given protection - not punishment - by law because of their wrongful deeds? You would gasp in amazement. Yet you embrace the notion that because someone engages in sex with a person of the same gender - and then chooses to broadcast that fact - they should be protected? Amazing! This sin is so insidious by its nature, and those who commit such things so abominable by their nature, that it serves as the litmus test for a society. When God has turned his back on a people, sodomites rule the land. America is on the cusp of that condition, and only by an abundance of mercy will God forebear the utter destruction of this country. That is why we focus on this issue in our ministry at this time in our journey on this Earth.

Third, similar conditions existed in Sodom, which was destroyed by God. Jesus warned us that it would be like it was in the days of Lot (Sodom) just before He returns. We are in those days right now, and this abomination of desolation should be preached against, not condoned. If you are a fag, you should be ashamed of yourself. If you support fags, you should be ashamed of yourself. It was your ilk who brought destruction on Sodom, and it will be your ilk who fuels God's wrath to the point that there will be no remedy.

Finally, you should realize that the full scope of our ministry is broader than the homosexual movement. If you read all of our fliers and signs, and heard the preaching in our church week in and out, you would realize that we have a full doctrinal scope in all our activities.

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iliterate_enginere On February 12, 2010

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Wichita, Kansas
#6New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 16:50:09
that's a sad view and opinion on things, man.
matzi1110 On October 04, 2014




, Michigan
#7New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 16:51:36
@shadyfx8 Said
why do you focus on homosexuals?



all righty then.

then why are they trying to stop the end of days? why are they trying to go against people to stop the end from coming? people have been saying that we are in the times of the end for way to long, it seems to be a hollow threat to human kind, we cant predict it, so why try? if the end is supose to bring everyone to happyness and all... why fight it? why prolong the suffering of the world by trying right other peoples wrongs?
ShadyFx8 On October 11, 2017




cairns, Australia
#9New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 16:57:00
@iliterate_enginere Said
that's a sad view and opinion on things, man.



who me?
moderate cristains?
real cristains?
chaski On April 19, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#10New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 17:08:17
@matzi1110 Said
all righty then.

then why are they trying to stop the end of days? why are they trying to go against people to stop the end from coming? people have been saying that we are in the times of the end for way to long, it seems to be a hollow threat to human kind, we cant predict it, so why try? if the end is supose to bring everyone to happyness and all... why fight it? why prolong the suffering of the world by trying right other peoples wrongs?



What are you talking about?

Are you saying that homosexuals are trying to stop the end of days?

It comes of as complete nonsense to me, but maybe you should start a topic on that one and give some more information.

matzi1110 On October 04, 2014




, Michigan
#12New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 17:13:27
sorry no, modern christens, if they protest and what not its just prolonging the times of the end... yea my wording is really of in that sorry for the confusion.
matzi1110 On October 04, 2014




, Michigan
#14New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 17:18:25
@shadyfx8 Said
the bible is all crazy, we have to proove that, makes people aware. athiests have a common goal, to heal the world of delusion and dogma, sugercoating the bible wont help the cause



umm.. atheist have a common goal? what is your idea as to what atheism is? no one seems to be able to give an answer to it for me.
matzi1110 On October 04, 2014




, Michigan
#15New Post! Aug 11, 2008 @ 17:21:20
@shadyfx8 Said
your wording is fine, i dont get the "prolonging the times of the end" premise



if indeed that times like sodom and the one world government and all those other "signs of the end" that people of talk of... then why do they fight it from coming? if indeed the end is going to be so great then why do they seem to be doing things in the opposite direction of those things? i feel like im not really getting this thought out correctly still :/
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