opposing immigration will be a hate crime.

@Jennifer1984 Said

Personally, I don't have a problem with anybody cracking down on hate crime. Lord knows, I've had to endure it so I know what it's like to be on the receiving end.

The only people who could possibly object are those who support, are, or would be, hate criminals.

And yes, I did see the demonstration in Belgium, on mainstream news, at prime time, last night.

The protesters have a right to make their point but when it turns to violence... which it invariably does where the extreme right are concerned.... there I draw the line.

Make your protest if you will. Make your point by all means. But do it peacefully.

Not too much to ask, is it..?

@offbeat Said

so, do you think that opposition to immigration should be considered a hate crime? I dare say the day will come when your peaceful existence in the west country is affected by excessive immigration...and then you wont be able to object for fear of being accused of a hate crime. it's easy to support a thing when it isn't having an effect on yourself.

@offbeat Said

so, do you think that opposition to immigration should be considered a hate crime? I dare say the day will come when your peaceful existence in the west country is affected by excessive immigration...and then you wont be able to object for fear of being accused of a hate crime. it's easy to support a thing when it isn't having an effect on yourself.

@Jennifer1984 Said

I was born and grew up in South London. Do you think I've never seen a migrant before...?

And I don't object to migrants anyway. Hey.... I'm the REMAIN voter here..!!

And I'm a woman. I campaigned for women's rights at uni... actually opposing hate crime against women.

And I'm gay. Do you think I've never experienced hate crime in a very personal way...?

Contrary to what you appear to think, I'm actually IN FAVOUR of anything that opposes hate crime against anybody.


Sheesh.

@mrmhead Said

I still haven't seen the document stating that speaking in opposition to immigration is a hate crime.

@offbeat Said

it was a video of an official and he said that under the agreement opposition to immigration would be a hate crime and then he said that any newspaper that gave a platform to anyone opposing immigration would be shut down. i've forgotten where I saw the video and the fact that very few people even know about this points to a deliberate intention not to give the signing media publicity.i would not lie about seeing that video and i'm airing this because the intention to prevent debate on an issue as serious as immigration is a breach of our freedom of speech.

@offbeat Said

it was a video of an official and he said that under the agreement opposition to immigration would be a hate crime and then he said that any newspaper that gave a platform to anyone opposing immigration would be shut down. i've forgotten where I saw the video and the fact that very few people even know about this points to a deliberate intention not to give the signing media publicity.i would not lie about seeing that video and i'm airing this because the intention to prevent debate on an issue as serious as immigration is a breach of our freedom of speech.

@mrmhead Said

I don't disbelieve that you saw that.

But that's just someone saying something.

Like ... "Mexico will pay for the wall"

@nooneinparticular Said

Officials say crazy or untrue things all the time to rile their supporters. Just because the liberals do it doesn't mean that the conservatives don't. By necessity, you would need a document to facilitate any sort of discussion because without it you could literally claim anything and, as long as someone else with power said it, it could not be challenged.

@offbeat Said

I envy you with regard this because the usa was sensible enough not to sign it.

@nooneinparticular Said

I don't even know what they refused to sign, so I don't really have a full opinion about whether or not it was a good idea.

@nooneinparticular Said

I don't even know what they refused to sign, so I don't really have a full opinion about whether or not it was a good idea.

@mrmhead Said

A number of nations want to come to some sort of agreement on how to deal with immigration. Kind of like the early stages of what became the Paris Accord for the environment.

BTW - I think I saw some mention that climate change is expected to play a role in increased migrations.


Kind of like - "We expect the s*** to hit the fan, so we, as global partners, better be prepared to deal with it."

@offbeat Said

and the reason you don't know in your country is because of the same reason we don't know in our country and that is that the mainstream media didn't report it.