@Hinckleylad Said 
very well put, disagree with a lot, but i can see where you are coming from.
picking up about a totalitarian regime, does that not sound very similar to where this country is already heading, surveillance, id cards, bio-metrics, watching our e-mails ect... not interfering in elections by employing marxist thugs to alter the election through intimidation and unlawful smear campaigns?
as for a mandate to govern, i do not believe the present government has one nor is capable of running the country!
every election sees protest votes, people flip flop their allegiances when they know a party is tired, and set in its ways, we cannot be judged as we have never been in control, a phrophecy of how you feel we will implode and not succeed cannot be backed up with any evidence as we have never, achieved such political heights, not yet anyway...
The people of britain will make their choices, and it is their votes that count, it is our duty then to function and act in their interests to retain their support, can we do this? well the day is coming for us to prove we can.
maybe the day will come soon that the bnp will allow british ethnic minorities membership, i know it has been raised at conference a few times and the membership is changing as more conservative types fill the rank and file, so who knows what the future holds, that aside what is being orchestrated is grossly unfair no matter what your political leanings, nobody in any party deserves such anti/un-democratic tactics!
One must also remember, if the bnp maintains its political rise, it will be down to the British electorate- surely if the tide turns and we win seats on a minority of votes, just like our government is elected on a minority of votes 9seeing that half the counrty dont vote!)- the outcome must surely be respected as it is the will of the people.
Or will new draconian methods be implemented to stop us from fulfilling our elected roles.?
I would certainly agree on the decline of the freedom of speech, movement and expression along with the levels of "civil monitoring" via cctv, and the erosion of civil liberties for those who are called through the legal system for criminal/terrorist allegations against them. But bear in mind, these are the symptoms, not the causes of for concern. Further to this I made no claim that the present Party in Government is exempt.
There is however, the point of mandate. The present Government are reacting to a threat that is more than simply perceived, therefore detention and monitoring and advocacy remits have all been adjusted as they see fit.
The threat is still basic fundamentalism and those that wish to pursue it. Presently the media and the people are onside simply because they know the nature of the beast. The succes in implementing further measures the Government may seek will rest on the public/media/and political views as to their nessecity and impact on the present conditions.
If the BNP grows by popular sponsership then you serve only to undermine your own stand point by implying that the Party that won a General Election vote {however marginal} does so without a mandate from the people given that it is the same due process that the BNP support would "manifest" itself. If this process is without ratification for one party then it must also be so for the other.
Smear campaigns, dirty tricks et al have been a part of democratic politics since the ancient Greeks. The fact is, it is the media backing lent to these tactics in the maxim of the end justifies the means, also the current maxim being held by the present government for the erosion of legal rights,liberties etc in the face of Fundamentalist threats along with their protagonists.
If the BNP can persuade the electorate that they do not harbour a Fundamentalist Agenda then there would be a more solid support base from the media and ALL sections of Society.
The first is to, as I have already aluded, be seen to be pursuing a less fascist agenda.
It is because the BNP is not TRUSTED. It is because the BNP is seen by press, public and politics alike as being Fundamentalist that raises the question: What is the difference in the Core practise and princlpes between the Fundamentalism of the BNP and the Fundamentalism of Al Queda. Or, for that matter The National Socialism that swept Europe into war in the 30s and 40s. To many today the words "Lest We Forget" still echo loudly enough.
It is not such as myself that have to be educated and informed, but those that lay themselves open to influence, media and rumour because they trust neither and remain in ignorance
Presently it seems to me that the BNP are capitalising on the ongoing situation whilst remaining wilfully neglegent in it's role of antagonising the factions and causing disquiet where unessecary. Several of these factions that include moslem instigators are reciprocating this tactic resulting in the ongoing antagonism within the British populace. This will require ever more stringent policing measures, ever more compromising of the legal safeguards of the public and ever more fuel for the opposing collectives.
Apr 11, 2009 @ 15:17:37
