@GreatestIam2 Said 
Would a moral God step up to his responsibilities?
God cannot do miracles. If he could, he would.
From God’s POV, all here must be perfect. He began in perfection and would not back slide to anything less. That’s scripture. It is to us to see things as he does.
From mankind’s POV, all here is not perfection. This contrary and wrong POV is promoted by religion and is generally accepted to some degree by most people. I tend to agree with God even as most do not.
From a moral stand point, most will agree, that if one sees a wrong that they can right; they will do the right thing and right the wrong. This is the right thing to do.
The fact that there are preventable human evil acts being perpetrated by mankind, supposedly created by God, and he does not act, means that a moral God does not exist.
A moral God takes responsibility and God is not stepping up. A moral God would. If he could that is. Just as all of us would. We are in his image and know that stepping up is a good idea.
Perhaps God is not the miracles working super God. You know the one. The one that man has created to hold all of his hopes and wishes, dreams and desires, loves, ---- and hates ---, and although never seen in any real way, --- believers will kill for Him. Insanity.
If God does exist, and is not moral, then what good is he to mankind or you?
Would you want life without morals?
No wonder then that Eve, the first to be as God/human, ----yes there is a difference, ---- had the wisdom to have adam/mankind, eat of it. What a wonderful myth.
Believers who follow a God without morals, Bible God, should question why they do.
God has a basis in reality but certainly not like the God without morals that has somehow been molded by what was initially, a rather beautiful ideas. The Bible.
To think and act God like, is to ----- do unto others.
If God creates man, then it should be for a best end. Not an evil end like hell. Fact is, many millions die daily of easily preventable cause. Allowed to by a miracle working God who just does not step up.
The fact that God, who by definition, would have the attribute of taking responsibility, as any good entity would, proves beyond any doubt that a moral miracle working God cannot exists.
And if there is a miracle working God, mankind should give him a thumbs down for his lack of morals.
Can a moral God exist?
Is it moral for God, who wants relevance to mankind, to not step up?
As a creator God does he have any responsibility to what he creates?
Regards
DL
God has stepped up to His responsibilities, just because He does things according to His timescale and not ours doesn't mean He isn't doing anything. In the Garden of Eden, when Satan stepped in and fooled Eve, God decreed the start of it all when He said s seed would come to oppose Satan. That seed was His own son, who has opposed Satan from the start, came to earth as a human to set the seal on his Father's arrangement, and we are near the time when that arrangement will be completed.
6,000 years or so may seem a long time to us, but compared to eternity it is as close to no time at all as you can get, and when God's arrangement is finally in place it will never go wrong again, because the issue has now been proved beyond any future argument by any other spirit creature.
The bible is basically the story of that arrangement and how it has been developed through eh millenia. Believe me, those who have suffered in this time period will not remember any of it by the time we have had a fair bit of life in the new one.
God can do, has done, and will again do miracles, the whole "Jesus thing" was a miracle in itself, but the bible documents many others. The preaching work He has organised, through His son, for this time period is another miracle in it's way, and the next will be Armageddon. However He does not do "miracles to order" as the Pharisees found out when they asked Jesus for a sign from God. Hi reply was somewhat less polite than "no way Josea" but basically meant the same.
The inhuman acts man carries out against other men are all part of Satan's attmepts, all too successful, to make people think God doesn't care, but they will be repaid in time. The fact that Satan has now been kicked out of heaven, after all those long millennia making a nuisance of himself there, has really given him one final chance to proceed the original issue he made, and also has made him very angry indeed as he now realises there is no chance of being proved right, and so he is taking it out on God's crsation for all he is worth. However he will not succeed, and in God's own time will be hauled away.
HArd as it may be for us, we just have to accept that God knows best, and that His time will be the right time, but getting to know the bible helps in that because you can learn how God thinks, and how much more wide ranging his thoughts are than ours.
Sep 12, 2011 @ 18:17:15
