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offbeat On 39 minutes ago




london, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jul 31, 2020 @ 11:35:29
Just read a CNN headline. Here is the first part of it. ...... 'Individuals with a cervix are now recommended to start cervical cancer screening at 25 and continue through age 65!' Why didn't they start the line with ... 'Women are now recommended ... ?'
bobbimay On August 04, 2020




Tucson, Arizona
#2New Post! Aug 01, 2020 @ 11:11:45
@offbeat Said

Just read a CNN headline. Here is the first part of it. ...... 'Individuals with a cervix are now recommended to start cervical cancer screening at 25 and continue through age 65!' Why didn't they start the line with ... 'Women are now recommended ... ?'



because that would insult the trans gender crowd..
dookie 2 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#3New Post! Aug 01, 2020 @ 11:21:49
Maybe drafted by someone trying to aggravate the anti-transgender type crowd?

Jennifer1984 On about 1 hour ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#4New Post! Aug 01, 2020 @ 13:27:40
Or it could be that women who have had a Total Hysterectomy have had their cervix removed and therefore have no need for cervical cancer screening.

(Total hysterectomy is the removal of the uterus and cervix. A total hysterectomy with bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy is the removal of the uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes (salpingo) and ovaries (oophor) )

Not "Political Correctness Gone Mad" after all, eh..? Sorry to pee on anybody's bonfire.
offbeat On 39 minutes ago




london, United Kingdom
#5New Post! Aug 01, 2020 @ 16:24:22
@Jennifer1984 Said

Or it could be that women who have had a Total Hysterectomy have had their cervix removed and therefore have no need for cervical cancer screening.

(Total hysterectomy is the removal of the uterus and cervix. A total hysterectomy with bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy is the removal of the uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes (salpingo) and ovaries (oophor) )

Not "Political Correctness Gone Mad" after all, eh..? Sorry to pee on anybody's bonfire.



Except, that the term 'people with a cervix' wasn't used when advising about cancer in the not too distant past. But if i'm not mistaken, their were women in the not too distant past that had also had hysterectomies. Why are they using that phrase all of a sudden. If it's for the benefit of women post hysterectomy then it's more likely that it would upset them. Because it's reminding them of the fact that they no longer have a uterus/cervix etc. It seems to be extremely insensitive in that context.
offbeat On 39 minutes ago




london, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Aug 02, 2020 @ 11:13:34
A development. That CNN headline was tweeted by the organization and someone tweeted under it ... 'Do you mean women?' And a female UK politician liked the reply. This inspired other tweeters to accuse her of being a transphobe. She dismissed the response as just the latest communist pile on and said she couldn't wait to be voted out of parliament because she was representing s**tty people.
gakINGKONG On about 9 hours ago




, Florida
#7New Post! Aug 02, 2020 @ 14:36:49
@offbeat Said

Just read a CNN headline. Here is the first part of it. ...... 'Individuals with a cervix are now recommended to start cervical cancer screening at 25 and continue through age 65!' Why didn't they start the line with ... 'Women are now recommended ... ?'



If you go back through US history, the answer becomes a resounding "Of course, women."

Women are most always okay. And, sometimes, they're really good.

Let's all remember Betsy Ross. Betsy Ross was pretty good. The old girl could sew a flag together like no-body's bidnus.


And let's all remember the wife of George Washington aka Mrs George Washington. So, remember: behind every good man is a better woman. That means Mrs George Washington was smoking hot, perfect teeth, and an excellent cook.

And let's not forget Hillary Clinton. Oh okay okay I'll dial it back.

You all get the point.
gakINGKONG On about 9 hours ago




, Florida
#8New Post! Aug 02, 2020 @ 14:42:12
@offbeat Said

A development. That CNN headline was tweeted by the organization and someone tweeted under it ... 'Do you mean women?' And a female UK politician liked the reply. This inspired other tweeters to accuse her of being a transphobe. She dismissed the response as just the latest communist pile on and said she couldn't wait to be voted out of parliament because she was representing s**tty people.



Well, I for one think s**tty is a little harsh. I don't mean to nose in on the affairs of the great people from the Island of Wales or Scottland Kingdoms. Ya'll are fully grown and quite capable of whatever transphobe wars without my help.
Jennifer1984 On about 1 hour ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#9New Post! Aug 02, 2020 @ 17:23:03
@offbeat Said

Except, that the term 'people with a cervix' wasn't used when advising about cancer in the not too distant past. But if i'm not mistaken, their were women in the not too distant past that had also had hysterectomies. Why are they using that phrase all of a sudden. If it's for the benefit of women post hysterectomy then it's more likely that it would upset them. Because it's reminding them of the fact that they no longer have a uterus/cervix etc. It seems to be extremely insensitive in that context.



Whaaaaaaaaaattt....???

How little you know women. A woman who has had a total hysterectomy is all too aware of what has been done to her, I can assure you. Perhaps you think that women are dainty flowers who have to have difficult subjects tiptoed around so they won't blush and be embarrassed, but actually, we can be pretty darned pragmatic when it comes to our girlyworks.

You might be surprised what your wife, girlfriend, or significant other talks about when you're not around, and in addition to her own intimate workings, I suggest it's also a pretty safe bet that if she has sisters, then by now they know ALL there is to know about you. Ditto her best friend.

As for any reason for it being used "all of a sudden"..... I've been aware of this particular phrase for years. I've seen it used in various items of women's information literature in Britain which I suggest you're probably not aware of, or if you are, why..? Do you make a habit of going out of your way to scrutinise women's intimate medical advice literature...?

It seems to me you have picked up on this petty little issue of wording and are attempting to big it up into something it isn't in order to grind an axe against what you perceive to be political correctness... probably of the "gone mad" variety.

Ridiculously though, all you're achieving in reality is insulting the intelligence of women.

Husbands, partners, etc do well to care and give support to wives, partners, etc who have to undergo radical surgery. They can be involved in an important and genuinely caring role. That is when menfolk show themselves at their best.

My tip: Stick to doing what you're good at.
darkman666 On about 2 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#10New Post! Aug 02, 2020 @ 19:22:14
@gakINGKONG Said

If you go back through US history, the answer becomes a resounding "Of course, women."

Women are most always okay. And, sometimes, they're really good.

Let's all remember Betsy Ross. Betsy Ross was pretty good. The old girl could sew a flag together like no-body's bidnus.


And let's all remember the wife of George Washington aka Mrs George Washington. So, remember: behind every good man is a better woman. That means Mrs George Washington was smoking hot, perfect teeth, and an excellent cook.

And let's not forget Hillary Clinton. Oh okay okay I'll dial it back.

You all get the point.


i didn't know that martha had a perfect wooden teeth. hillary has some sexy wooden dentures. don't you think?
offbeat On 39 minutes ago




london, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Aug 03, 2020 @ 12:42:46
@Jennifer1984 Said

Whaaaaaaaaaattt....???

How little you know women. A woman who has had a total hysterectomy is all too aware of what has been done to her, I can assure you. Perhaps you think that women are dainty flowers who have to have difficult subjects tiptoed around so they won't blush and be embarrassed, but actually, we can be pretty darned pragmatic when it comes to our girlyworks.

You might be surprised what your wife, girlfriend, or significant other talks about when you're not around, and in addition to her own intimate workings, I suggest it's also a pretty safe bet that if she has sisters, then by now they know ALL there is to know about you. Ditto her best friend.

As for any reason for it being used "all of a sudden"..... I've been aware of this particular phrase for years. I've seen it used in various items of women's information literature in Britain which I suggest you're probably not aware of, or if you are, why..? Do you make a habit of going out of your way to scrutinise women's intimate medical advice literature...?

It seems to me you have picked up on this petty little issue of wording and are attempting to big it up into something it isn't in order to grind an axe against what you perceive to be political correctness... probably of the "gone mad" variety.

Ridiculously though, all you're achieving in reality is insulting the intelligence of women.

Husbands, partners, etc do well to care and give support to wives, partners, etc who have to undergo radical surgery. They can be involved in an important and genuinely caring role. That is when menfolk show themselves at their best.

My tip: Stick to doing what you're good at.


Wow! You really do believe that you speak for all women don't you? I'm really at a loss as to why you're writing in such an aggressive way. We're only exchanging information and views here you know. Tsk!
dookie 2 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#12New Post! Aug 03, 2020 @ 13:33:58
@offbeat Said

We're only exchanging information and views here you know.



Surely a little innuendo and passive aggression is allowed?


Jennifer1984 On about 1 hour ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Aug 04, 2020 @ 07:05:36
@offbeat Said

Wow! You really do believe that you speak for all women don't you? I'm really at a loss as to why you're writing in such an aggressive way. We're only exchanging information and views here you know. Tsk!


Exactly. Exchanging views. What you got was my view. What I did was challenge your argument on the basis that, as a woman, commenting on women's issues, I might have an idea of what the average woman might think..? We do talk to each other you know... and sometimes we talk about issues that pertain to women.

Did it ever occur to you to think that a lot of women, particularly those who may have undergone certain procedures might actually prefer forms of terminology that are more sensitive to certain conditions and situations..?

No, it didn't. Typical.

The tenor of your argument is quite clear. You've taken umbrage at a simple use of phraseology and attempted to turn it into some sort of anti-PC issue. That is clear for all to see.

Now you attempt to claim victimhood. Feeble.

If you want to get involved in women's issues, here's my tip: Listen to women.
dookie 2 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#14New Post! Aug 04, 2020 @ 09:06:36



Go go Jennifer!!
offbeat On 39 minutes ago




london, United Kingdom
#15New Post! Aug 04, 2020 @ 10:12:23
@Jennifer1984 Said

Exactly. Exchanging views. What you got was my view. What I did was challenge your argument on the basis that, as a woman, commenting on women's issues, I might have an idea of what the average woman might think..? We do talk to each other you know... and sometimes we talk about issues that pertain to women.

Did it ever occur to you to think that a lot of women, particularly those who may have undergone certain procedures might actually prefer forms of terminology that are more sensitive to certain conditions and situations..?

No, it didn't. Typical.

The tenor of your argument is quite clear. You've taken umbrage at a simple use of phraseology and attempted to turn it into some sort of anti-PC issue. That is clear for all to see.

Now you attempt to claim victimhood. Feeble.

If you want to get involved in women's issues, here's my tip: Listen to women.



How you can't see that using the term 'individuals with a cervix' isn't potentially upsetting for women without a cervix shows a deep level of insensitivity on your part.I noticed also that you asked me a question and then supplied the answer yourself, as if you know what is in the minds of others. Are you also a mind reader? And no, i'm not claiming victimhood, just merely pointing out how angry and aggressively you come across. You're so certain that all women agree with your interpretation. It's almost as if you have a dictatorial nature. Do you? ... And what do you say about that female politician liking that tweet, you know, the one that said 'do you mean women?' It would appear that there is at least one woman who disagrees with you.Should i take your advice about listening to women by listening to her, or should i just listen to you?
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