Why do the Abraham religions not use God?s true name?

GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#16

Nov 04, 2010 @ 01:21:34

@Richard142 Said

This is true. I got the results Yahweh and YHWH frim an entry in Wikipedia. In the UK the name clises used is Jehovah that has been adopted by Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't know why the authodox King James version of the bible does not use this name. Sadly humans use the written word as a weapon to justify going to war and in domestic power politics. as in "All is fair in love and war"!!!

"Whoever imagines himself a favorite with God,
holds other people in contempt.
Whenever a man believes that he has the exact truth from God,
there is in that man no spirit of compromise.
He has not the modesty born of the imperfections of human nature;
he has the arrogance of theological certainty and the tyranny born of ignorant assurance.
Believing himself to be the slave of God,
he imitates his master,
and of all tyrants,
the worst is a slave in power."
--Robert Ingersoll

Regards
DL

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GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#17

Nov 04, 2010 @ 01:25:12

@buffalobill90 Said

Maybe so. But your contention about the Abrahamic religions avoiding the use of "I AM" as the name of God is groundless; the name 'Yahweh' has been used for millennia by Christians and Jews.

Groundless. Perhaps.

"this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations."

Then again, the Bible has little to nothing original.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x84m5k_2007doc-zone-pagan-christ-1-of-3_news

Regards
DL

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davii

I'm Awesome

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London, United Kingdom

#18

Nov 04, 2010 @ 01:31:34

@crazylikeafox Said

Well, I've heard from historians that, in many ancient Middle Eastern civilizations, names are very important. Knowing some 1's name means you have power over them. So, God doesn't reveal his name because we have no power over him. There's also the fact Jews didn't and don't want to say it anyways, lest they accidentally blasphemy his name. It's certainly within the realm of possibility Christians kept that caution.

Makes sense to me, also takes away the opportunity for other cultures to assert mind games as well.

On an additional, cynical view, allowing it to remain vague allows for a managable impact from future revelations on the origin and validity of that god.

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manfraco

Brisbane, Australia

#19

Nov 04, 2010 @ 01:59:14

They are scared to use it!

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manfraco

Brisbane, Australia

#20

Nov 04, 2010 @ 02:17:52

They are scared to use God's name in case they offend God somehow, the third commandment; Quote, You shall not utter the name of Yahweh your God to misuse it, for Yahweh will not leave unpunished the man who utter his name to misuse it.
Unquote, this seems to me the reason why they do nod use God's name.

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MaryJ

Mary Land, California

#21

Nov 09, 2010 @ 07:09:45

God is everything...you name it.

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calonso

Orlando, Florida

#22

Nov 18, 2010 @ 04:06:09

@GreatestIam2 Said

Why do the Abraham religions not use God?s true name?

Ex 3; 13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
15And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

God is given many names by Christians and Muslims and the other Abrahamic faiths.

Yet the Bible says that I Am or I AM THAT I AM is the true and eternal name of God.

Could it be that the Church or Mosque fathers do not want people to recognize the Gnostic implications of the God within being recognized by the rank and file?

Is that a form of deception?

Is God?s true name, I Am and why are we not using it?

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Further, while speaking of names and titles.

"I, even I am the LORD and beside me there is no Saviour." Is.43:11

If God is insisting that no one but himself is ever to be called ?saviour,? then He and His inspired Bible writers should never have called anyone else by that exclusive title.

Why then is Jesus, who is not the Lord, called saviour?
He should not be unless you buy into that ridiculous trinity doctrine.

Regards
DL

The act of naming and labeling is a human thing. God is above naming as why he first reveals himself as 'I am that I am' We could never comprehend God in his true essence. Take the wisdom of the Tao te ching for example;

The name that can be named is not the
eternal name.
The nameless is the beginning of
heaven and Earth.
The named is the mother of the ten
thousand things. -tao te ching

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squirt_aka_casey

BCW-Ant Destroyer

That place, Ohio

#23

Nov 18, 2010 @ 04:11:08

@8FlOz Said

Thats like saying "PRAISE I AM!"...no that only works Sam I Am.

That Sam I Am that Sam I Am! I do not like that Sam I Am!

Me and my son just read Green Eggs and Ham today....

now I want eggs and ham

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GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#24

Nov 18, 2010 @ 12:52:50

@calonso Said

The act of naming and labeling is a human thing. God is above naming as why he first reveals himself as 'I am that I am' We could never comprehend God in his true essence. Take the wisdom of the Tao te ching for example;

The name that can be named is not the
eternal name.
The nameless is the beginning of
heaven and Earth.
The named is the mother of the ten
thousand things. -tao te ching

If you are saying that to give God a name is idol worship, I agree.
To worship Jesus for instance, is idol worship.

Regards
DL

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ThePainefulTruth

Verum est Deus

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Peoria, Arizona

#25

Nov 18, 2010 @ 14:26:30

@GreatestIam2 Said

If you are saying that to give God a name is idol worship, I agree.
To worship Jesus for instance, is idol worship.

Regards
DL

Is worshiping Truth, idol worship?

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tariki

Deleted

, United Kingdom

#26

Nov 18, 2010 @ 14:45:14

@GreatestIam2 Said

If you are saying that to give God a name is idol worship, I agree.
To worship Jesus for instance, is idol worship.

Regards
DL

I'm more of the "no name" type. I do see (if "see" is the right word....

) that a picture of the Divine can only ever be an idol, and words are pictures of some sort.

Certainly it seems at times that many of the devout do "worship" Jesus, who should instead be a window though Whom we known the Divine. Many seem to know only the human Jesus of days gone by, not Jesus Christ. It is Christ who is the Way, and He is invisible. As Merton said.....The "desert" of contemplation is simply a metaphor to explain the state of emptiness which we experience when we have left all ways, forgotten ourselves and taken the invisible Christ as our way.

(Which amplifies the words of Eckhart, that they do Him wrong who take God in just one way, for they end with the way rather then God

In my own view, giving our own "name" to God, and insisting upon it, and denying the name of others, is the road to the Inquisition.

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tariki

Deleted

, United Kingdom

#27

Nov 18, 2010 @ 14:46:17

Double post - deleted

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Edited: November 18, 2010 @ 14:47

GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#28

Nov 18, 2010 @ 15:55:21

@ThePainefulTruth Said

Is worshiping Truth, idol worship?

Why worship something for being what it is.
It cannot help itself.

Do you worship a dog for being what it cannot help being?

Why do so with truth?

Regards
DL

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GreatestIam2

Ottawa, Canada

#29

Nov 18, 2010 @ 15:57:53

@tariki Said

Double post - deleted

Good words are worth repeating.

Regards
DL

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calonso

Orlando, Florida

#30

Nov 23, 2010 @ 20:21:16

@GreatestIam2 Said

If you are saying that to give God a name is idol worship, I agree.
To worship Jesus for instance, is idol worship.

Regards
DL

Worshiping anything that is not God is idol worship. I'm saying that God is above naming and the act of labeling is a human thing. A person can call God a million different things but he doesn't listen to the worship of the mouth but the worship of the heart and this is a spiritual language. In the bible he even says that some people worship him with their tounges but their hearts are far from him. the scriptures do say to honor the son just as the father and it was the father and the son in the beginning. He did say "let us make man in OUR image" seemingly they are equals in that regard. and people worshiped Jesus ever since he was born, all God said to that is "this is my son in whom I am well pleased" but ultimately the scriptures say that the only way to the father is through christ. So I think that worshiping any part of the trinity is ok and anything outside of it idol worship.

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