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Ratty On March 22, 2021




So Cal, California
#16New Post! Jan 22, 2017 @ 23:04:26
Maybe it's the time I grew up in, but to me tomboy just sounds like a girl that likes to do more "boy" stuff but is/was still all girl/woman.

Maybe it means something else now, I don't know.
DiscordTiger On May 25, 2021
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Emerald City, United States (g
#17New Post! Jan 22, 2017 @ 23:08:44
@Ratty Said

Maybe it's the time I grew up in, but to me tomboy just sounds like a girl that likes to do more "boy" stuff but is/was still all girl/woman.

Maybe it means something else now, I don't know.



Nah it still means the same thing.
The OP is a trolling spreader of "alternative-facts"
adrinachrome On June 23, 2021




Fukitall, Arizona
#18New Post! Jan 22, 2017 @ 23:26:58
I've never heard such s*** in my life. This transgender stuff is soo confusing.

It was better before.

You were either a gay or straight man or woman. What was wrong with that?
Ratty On March 22, 2021




So Cal, California
#19New Post! Jan 22, 2017 @ 23:30:48
I got to admit. I too am struggling a bit with the trans thing. I mean I wouldn't ever be rude or treat them badly, but I'm having a harder time getting to a place where I'm a 100 percent onboard. Not that my opinion means s***, but just for my own headspace. I'm good with the gay crowd, I just think I have to let it marinate on the trans thing. I'll get there in a bit, but right now I'm still sorta scratching my head a little.
NNewt84 On July 19, 2018




Adelaide, Australia
#20New Post! Jan 22, 2017 @ 23:57:27
@psycoskunk Said

Who assumes that tomboy means transgendered? Specifically, who? Can you name names, or is this just more generalized assumption based on something you heard someone on Youtube say? Nobody in Canada seems to think this. I haven't heard people making these claims in the US. It just seems to be this small circle of 'They' that seem to generalize about the most idiotic crap, but it's never really apparent who 'They' is. So who are they, Newt? Who are these people who insist that tomboys are transgendered?



Well, how's this for an example?


shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#23New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 01:25:27
@Ratty Said

I got to admit. I too am struggling a bit with the trans thing. I mean I wouldn't ever be rude or treat them badly, but I'm having a harder time getting to a place where I'm a 100 percent onboard. Not that my opinion means s***, but just for my own headspace. I'm good with the gay crowd, I just think I have to let it marinate on the trans thing. I'll get there in a bit, but right now I'm still sorta scratching my head a little.


There is quite a difference. You should read up on it. Various First Nations had multiple genders (some I think even around ten or more.)
Cpat92 On May 16, 2021
It's all or nothing





Lauderhill, Florida
#24New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 01:26:29
@NNewt84 Said

Lately, there's this thing that has been going around lately, where girls just assume they're trans men simply because they're a little bit boyish. But... why? Remember when that was called being a tomboy, and they were still considered real girls?

And this has also bled over to the Inside out fandom, who think, just because Riley is a tomboy, that means she's genderfluid, non-binary, or whatever other ridiculous terms they can come up with. Like, seriously - this film showed that girls are capable of being themselves and not giving a s*** about gender expectations, yet these SJW fantards are completely misinterpreting it as some kind of trans agenda, and thus they're only enforcing gender roles by insinuating that Riley isn't a real girl. Like... Why do they do this?



Never knew the term tomboy meant transgendered.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#25New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 01:26:30



Damn. His head must really do look like a TV with the Youtube logo!
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#26New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 01:27:24
@Cpat92 Said

Never knew the term tomboy meant transgendered.


It don't.
DiscordTiger On May 25, 2021
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Emerald City, United States (g
#27New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 03:10:03
@Ratty Said

I got to admit. I too am struggling a bit with the trans thing. I mean I wouldn't ever be rude or treat them badly, but I'm having a harder time getting to a place where I'm a 100 percent onboard. Not that my opinion means s***, but just for my own headspace. I'm good with the gay crowd, I just think I have to let it marinate on the trans thing. I'll get there in a bit, but right now I'm still sorta scratching my head a little.



I think it easier once you know someone, like really know them not just a celebrity. It doesn't have to be a close relationship but just seeing how they aren't all that different. Or that there is more to have in common than different.

I also thinks it's that way with any "other" group. Get to really know a few and the group becomes easier to relate to. I think that's where tolerance really starts to work, not that everyone has to agree but they are willing to listen and learn from each other.

I've said some horribly rude things to someone I cared about that was transgender, I didn't mean to be rude. I was just ignorant, and put my foot in my mouth. Once I profusely apologized for being an ass, (and I was, intent aside, I was an ass) we talked it out, and I've tried to do better.

Anyway I get that not being 100% there yet, but that you're willing is a start.
Ratty On March 22, 2021




So Cal, California
#28New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 03:40:10
@DiscordTiger Said

I think it easier once you know someone, like really know them not just a celebrity. It doesn't have to be a close relationship but just seeing how they aren't all that different. Or that there is more to have in common than different.

I also thinks it's that way with any "other" group. Get to really know a few and the group becomes easier to relate to. I think that's where tolerance really starts to work, not that everyone has to agree but they are willing to listen and learn from each other.

I've said some horribly rude things to someone I cared about that was transgender, I didn't mean to be rude. I was just ignorant, and put my foot in my mouth. Once I profusely apologized for being an ass, (and I was, intent aside, I was an ass) we talked it out, and I've tried to do better.

Anyway I get that not being 100% there yet, but that you're willing is a start.


Yeah... I've said s*** to people over the years out of ignorance and without much thought and my socks are pretty soggy from putting it my mouth. I think we all do that at times.

The bigger point is do we try our best to make right and that is probably what is really important.

I wanna get there and I will, I just need some time and as I mentioned I would never in a million years be intentionally rude and hurtful with malice toward a transgendered person.

Like I said for me it's more of a headspace thing, just need to get that place and like you mentioned, the openness to acceptance is a good thing. I don't wanna live in a world where we can't all find some common ground.

We have a nephew that we're suspecting is gay and if he does come out we're going to be there for him, not the same subject, but I thought I'd mention it.
Jennifer1984 On June 04, 2021
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#29New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 05:42:59
@earz Said

I'm in agreement with you. It's ridiculous.

I was a tomboy when I was growing up, I guess I still am... and I used to worry about looking too lesbian. I threw out a perfectly good shirt because I was paranoid that people would think I was a lesbian , and what for? I have nothing against homosexuality. I was young and stupid and far too concerned about what other people thought of me, I guess.

Now tomboys are viewed as trans. It infuriates me, honestly. I firmly believe that people should be free to be what makes them happy without fear of being beat up or killed or ridiculed.


Oh my God...!!!! How terrible that would have been..!! Having tomboyish ways might have meant you were (gasp.. shock horror) A LESBIAN. Arrrrgghhhhh...!!

You're quite right, of course. Young girls really did worry about such things and the attitude of the time was that this was the worst possible thing that could happen.

I never was a tomboy. I was always very girly. Still am. And yet....

These misconceptions are ridiculous and they can do so much damage. I guess it's an aspect of female nature that, as girls, we are our own biggest critic and we view ourselves in any negative way we can almost as a default setting. Mine was my eyes. A girl at school once said my eyes were so blue they were almost scary. Immediately, I became incredibly self conscious of the colour of my eyes. Ridiculous of course, but it just goes to show.

There is another side to the tomboy coin and it is that the myth that any girl who wants to wear jeans instead of a dress, or kick a football in the park with the boys, or who doesn't worry about falling off her bike doing stunts and tricks must be gender aberrant is that it can damage her confidence to compete in later life. She might be the brightest button at university or she may be incredibly skilled in the workplace, but the damage done to her self esteem as a child can inhibit her ability, or even her desire, to compete in the workplace.

Perhaps that's why I'm so able to compete now. I love sport and play with freedom. Is that because as a youngster I was such a girly girl that nobody saw me as a threat and therefore I wasn't put down and my confidence destroyed..? The knock on effect of this was that when I started working I could look the male staff in the eye and know I was there on merit.

The destruction of female confidence begins at an early age and it's up to parents to encourage their daughters to develop their own personality, be that what it may and let them run with it.

My little girl is a feisty little madam. I don't know if she'll be a "tomboy" yet, but she mixes with boys and girls at play group and is perfectly comfortable with either. If she does develop tomboyish ways in the future... comes home with her knees skinned from playing rough games, or whatever.... We won't try to get that out of her. Let her nature take her where it will.

Tomboys? Closet trannies..? Bah. Nonsense.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#30New Post! Jan 23, 2017 @ 05:49:45
@Jennifer1984 Said

Oh my God...!!!! How terrible that would have been..!! Having tomboyish ways might have meant you were (gasp.. shock horror) A LESBIAN. Arrrrgghhhhh...!!

You're quite right, of course. Young girls really did worry about such things and the attitude of the time was that this was the worst possible thing that could happen.

I never was a tomboy. I was always very girly. Still am. And yet....

These misconceptions are ridiculous and they can do so much damage. I guess it's an aspect of female nature that, as girls, we are our own biggest critic and we view ourselves in any negative way we can almost as a default setting. Mine was my eyes. A girl at school once said my eyes were so blue they were almost scary. Immediately, I became incredibly self conscious of the colour of my eyes. Ridiculous of course, but it just goes to show.

There is another side to the tomboy coin and it is that the myth that any girl who wants to wear jeans instead of a dress, or kick a football in the park with the boys, or who doesn't worry about falling off her bike doing stunts and tricks must be gender aberrant is that it can damage her confidence to compete in later life. She might be the brightest button at university or she may be incredibly skilled in the workplace, but the damage done to her self esteem as a child can inhibit her ability, or even her desire, to compete in the workplace.

Perhaps that's why I'm so able to compete now. I love sport and play with freedom. Is that because as a youngster I was such a girly girl that nobody saw me as a threat and therefore I wasn't put down and my confidence destroyed..? The knock on effect of this was that when I started working I could look the male staff in the eye and know I was there on merit.

The destruction of female confidence begins at an early age and it's up to parents to encourage their daughters to develop their own personality, be that what it may and let them run with it.

My little girl is a feisty little madam. I don't know if she'll be a "tomboy" yet, but she mixes with boys and girls at play group and is perfectly comfortable with either. If she does develop tomboyish ways in the future... comes home with her knees skinned from playing rough games, or whatever.... We won't try to get that out of her. Let her nature take her where it will.

Tomboys? Closet trannies..? Bah. Nonsense.


Agree! Let the kids be kids. They will figure things out themselves eventually. The best we can offer is to be supportive. Their choice. Their voice!
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