Why African American predominated groups are ok...

Hmmmm, let me see if I get this right: Sorry that this made you upset. 8) In reflection though, perhaps it shouldn't be too surprising though that these things happen. If you were the author/editor/publishing company for a book, textbook, you would be the exception to the rule if you went to great length in this book describing the atrocities that exist within your people (as they do within all people). Instead, most likely you would naturally spend a great deal of print relating facts about others, which directly or indirectly will leave 'your people' [generically speaking] looking pretty good.

You are correct again my friend!!!! How is it you post just what I was thinking?

Sorry to make this so short....but my pc is running slow.....I believe you have misquoted me......I didn't say you have to be black or even half black to fully understand blacks.......read it again please.....what I said was or what I meant was if you are not black, if you are not half black, and you are a white person who does NOT have ANY close, personal relationships with black people....I don't mean just black co-workers or black people who may live next door to you....if you are white and you don't have close.....meaning doing things with black people as much as you do with white people.....I can't possiblly know ALL black people.....but i'am half black, I have blacks in my family eat, drive......I can not explain this anymore....not trying to be God....nor am I saying you have to be black to know blacks......all my white friends and family members share my basic beliefs......they don't know blacks because they just listen to media or watch movies, t.v. shows about blacks.....they know them cause they want to......a few mo. ago, I let a couple of my white friends read some of these post regarding race issues.....let me just say.....they were stunned at the level of disrespect.....and lack of knowledge about blacks......how do you debate or disscuss this black issue...if you DON'T KNOW blacks? My white friends are my friends because they know and understand blacks as a result of their involvement with blacks.......I can't explain it any better than that.....being both races...has allowed me to see both sides of this race coin......

I agree that discrimination is more expansive than just a question of skin colour. However, for people to discard their prejudices about skin colour they would also naturally have to discard similarly unreasonable prejudices about other differences. A solution would encompass a total rejection of all arbitrary divisions in society.

Which is impossible....

Should'nt that be pov or POV or..... I'm just fooling wichya!

Thank you for your comment on my posting.
The term PC is a crock of crap IMO.
I will explain, I have never been in politics and have no plans to ever be . So when I as a person understand that some words and actions are not only unacceptable but wrong to use when referring to any group of people, it has nothing to do with my government telling me this. It is because I have heard someone or many someones from a group of people telling me or speaking publicly that the word or action is degrading and insulting. If as a person I could give a big rats a** that some may find or feel the use of a word or action is degrading and insulting and continued to do or say these things, again my government has nothing to do with my decision.
It makes no sense to me why some one would feel that a 'place' would need a new name as long as the name isn't something like
(insert any race) are a**holes Blvd. IMO if a battle took place there on in that area and the name refers to the battle not who won or lost , then I can't see where the name could be a problem. The name change won't change the outcome of what ever happened or the nationality of either side that was involved. Just my thoughts and opinion.

ha ha
gotcha. Believe POV is an acceptable capitalized acronym though
like USA or DEN or INC, though you don't see USA as Usa
you may see DEN as Den or INC as Inc and yada yada yada..

It becomes impossible to debate or discuss a topic when someone changes the meaning of a phrase or words they have used if they are disagreed with.








It's called a discussion not a debate if a person uses only thier personal opinones or thoughts ( with no links) or proven information ,when telling others where or how they may be mistaken in what they say or think on a topic.

I have seen where you have said that you showed some of your white friends some of the posts in TFS racism forums and they
".they were stunned at the level of disrespect.....and lack of knowledge about blacks" (direct quote)
I have a friend that I have known for several years , we first met as co workers . As a matter of fact she was the first black person I had ever been in contact with in my life. No, we don't dine or dance or drive or play or whatever together. We worked together for close to 3 years , she has been to my home and sat down to my table and had dinner with my family a few times and I have sat at her mothers table and had dinner with her family a few times. She married and moved out of state a few years ago and so the only contact we have now is emails and phone calls.
With that said , I decided to see what she felt about some of the posts in the TFS racism forums . So I sent her a link to the forums. She lurked for a few hours last nite . Now, there are somethings that just not acceptable for a person of one race to say to a person of another race . While IMing with her about her 'take' on the forums she used words like ' self hate' and 'denial' when talking about a few of the posts . She also pointed out that when a person has become convinced that where they are in life today is the fault of something or someone else's problems or actions whether it be in the past (resent or long gone) there just isn't much anyone else can do or say that will change anything. She told me of a few experiences she had as a black kid growing up in a Spanish speaking neighbor hood and some that happened when as a young teenager she went looking for a part time job . She experienced some pretty ugly racism from both the Spanish people and whites , let me tell you from what she said it's a hard spot to be in when your one of about a dozen black kids in a school of over 3000 kids and the 'accepted' minority is Spanish and Native American. She was discriminated against by some people on all sides . She also told about the people that paid no attention to her skin and treated her as a person . She said looking back there were more that treated her as a person then ones that seen only the color of her skin. I re framed from pointing out any one member or any one thread when I sent her the link . and I did not ask her for 'details' afterwards. I did tell her my user name . She ask me to please mention that there is no one posting on these forums that can say they know a **** thing about how she as a black woman thinks or feels , that the only person anyone can truthfully say they know anything about is themselves.

Not really. I'd like to think that I've achieved it, at least.