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Wellard On April 29, 2012
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#1New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 08:13:00
"A conservative legal watchdog group says the deadline is up and is suing the CIA and Defence Department to release photos and videos of the May raid that killed Osama bin Laden.
Tom Fitton, president of Washington-based Judicial Watch, said the American people have a right by law to know basic information about the killing of the terror mastermind.
In a statement, he said: 'President Obama's personal reluctance to release the documents is not a lawful basis for withholding them."


"The Obama administration will now need to justify its lack of compliance in federal court".

'This historic lawsuit should remind the administration that it is not above the law.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002314/Osama-Bin-Laden-death-photos-released-White-House-law.html
buffalobill90 On July 12, 2013
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#2New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 08:14:21
Excellent, that's exactly what should happen.
Jennifer1984 On about 19 hours ago
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#3New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 08:55:17
No goverment is above the law.

The question that needs to be asked is not whether the pictures should be released, but "why?"

Do the American people not believe that OBL is dead..? If so, what does that tell us about the confidence that the American people have in their government.

If it is just for the morbid fascination of seeing the man's bullet riddled body, or to satisfy some depraved bloodlust then that would be quite wrong.

I have no particular gripe either for or against the release of the photos. I accept the US government's statement that the attack took place and I believe that OBL is in fact dead. That's good enough for me on the grounds that if it were not so, the all that OBL would have to do to bring down Barack Obama is pop up his head and say, in Mark Twain fashion, that "Rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated".

Obama would know that to claim this thing and for it to be subsequently disproven would not only be career suicide but would put his name in the history books for all the wrong reasons.

So I'm prepared to believe that what he says is true.... at least until proven otherwise.... In this case, do we need to see the photographs..?

I think the case for such an exhibition is weak, and would serve only to stir up reaction that we shouldn't want. Why give the extremists pictures that they could hold up as examples of American criminality (as if there aren't already enough of those in the public domain).

Witholding the images may be unconsitutional or contrary to the law, and those wishing to have them released may very well have every legitimate reason to challenge the decision.

The question I would ask is: Why would they want to release them?


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Wellard On April 29, 2012
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#4New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 14:28:31
@Jennifer1984 Said

The question that needs to be asked is not whether the pictures should be released, but "why?"


I don't know whether there is a law or not (or if so the name of the law) about releasing certain information in the US but going by this it seems there might be.


Tom Fitton, president of Washington-based Judicial Watch, said the American people have a right by law to know basic information about the killing of the terror mastermind.
In a statement, he said: 'President Obama's personal reluctance to release the documents is not a lawful basis for withholding them
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#5New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 15:20:05
@Jennifer1984 Said

The question I would ask is: Why do I keep commenting on things that I know nothing about?



@Wellard Said

I don't know .



There. Fixed.
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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#6New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 18:53:34
@Wellard Said

"A conservative legal watchdog group says the deadline is up and is suing the CIA and Defence Department to release photos and videos of the May raid that killed Osama bin Laden.
Tom Fitton, president of Washington-based Judicial Watch, said the American people have a right by law to know basic information about the killing of the terror mastermind.
In a statement, he said: 'President Obama's personal reluctance to release the documents is not a lawful basis for withholding them."


"The Obama administration will now need to justify its lack of compliance in federal court".

'This historic lawsuit should remind the administration that it is not above the law.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002314/Osama-Bin-Laden-death-photos-released-White-House-law.html



If they want those pictures/videos to be released as evidence in a federal court, that's one thing. There is absolutely no need for those things to be made public.
white_swan53 On November 07, 2019




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#7New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 19:35:20
@Jennifer1984 Said



The question that needs to be asked is not whether the pictures should be released, but "why?"



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I disagree that there needs to be any question asked .
The American people need to 'take back our government' . Our government and our citizens need to be reminded that it is our responsibility as Americans to not only question our government but to expect answers. It is a practise that we as citizens should be very embarrassed about having to 'start ' doing . Because it is something we should never stopped doing to have to restart .
The May raid that killed Obama bin Laden is something that is totally this administrations . It can not be credited to any other .
We The People have the perfect opportunity to start taking our responsibility serious as Americans.
Do I think the photos and videos should be released to the general public ? I have to admit that i always find that question funny when it is asked on topics like this one.
There is always someone jumping up to demand that 'we have the right to freedom of ,,,,, well then we also have the freedom to look or not look at the photos . Put them on the White house official web site and let it be the choice of the people .I f someone wants to , fine go look, I personally don't want to see them so I wouldn't go look. pretty simple huh ?
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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#8New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 19:50:15
@white_swan53 Said


We The People have the perfect opportunity to start taking our responsibility serious as Americans.
Do I think the photos and videos should be released to the general public ? I have to admit that i always find that question funny when it is asked on topics like this one.
There is always someone jumping up to demand that 'we have the right to freedom of ,,,,, well then we also have the freedom to look or not look at the photos . Put them on the White house official web site and let it be the choice of the people .I f someone wants to , fine go look, I personally don't want to see them so I wouldn't go look. pretty simple huh ?



Wouldn't that sort of open the door to invasion of personal privacy such as releasing postmortem photos of people who had been killed in other ways? That would cause undue emotional harm to their loved ones.
white_swan53 On November 07, 2019




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#9New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 20:00:19
@someone_else Said

Wouldn't that sort of open the door to invasion of personal privacy such as releasing postmortem photos of people who had been killed in other ways? That would cause undue emotional harm to their loved ones.



What connection does photos of 'other people' have to do with the photos of the May raid that this administration ordered . ?
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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#10New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 20:05:49
@white_swan53 Said

What connection does photos of 'other people' have to do with the photos of the May raid that this administration ordered . ?



Releasing postmortem photos of dead people because "the public has a right to know."

I know people are very clever with their wording, but I just feel like someone somewhere would find a loophole that would allow them to do so and it's in bad taste.

For that matter, it's in bad taste anyway because the man does still have surviving family members. I said earlier that if they released them simply to an investigative court to see, that would be one thing, but to make it so widely public that anyone could see it is just in bad taste.
plebian_angel On April 25, 2012
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#11New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 20:07:02
@someone_else Said

Releasing postmortem photos of dead people because "the public has a right to know."

I know people are very clever with their wording, but I just feel like someone somewhere would find a loophole that would allow them to do so and it's in bad taste.

For that matter, it's in bad taste anyway because the man does still have surviving family members. I said earlier that if they released them simply to an investigative court to see, that would be one thing, but to make it so widely public that anyone could see it is just in bad taste.


I agree with you.
white_swan53 On November 07, 2019




n/a, New Mexico
#12New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 20:17:05
@someone_else Said

Releasing postmortem photos of dead people because "the public has a right to know."

I know people are very clever with their wording, but I just feel like someone somewhere would find a loophole that would allow them to do so and it's in bad taste.

For that matter, it's in bad taste anyway because the man does still have surviving family members. I said earlier that if they released them simply to an investigative court to see, that would be one thing, but to make it so widely public that anyone could see it is just in bad taste.



You make a good point.
I would have to say there would have to be a strong straight direct connection to the government's actions to any photos of dead people to be posted somewhere that gives people the choice to look or not. And when ( not if) some one came along with demands to see some photos / evidence not connected to a government action then they could just be told to go blow smoke up somewhere else.
As far as it being in poor taste and that he has surviving family ,, I can only give my opinion and listen to others opinions on the topic. IMO this falls under the heading of 'To each his own ',
Wellard On April 29, 2012
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#13New Post! Jun 11, 2011 @ 20:53:57
@white_swan53 Said

IMO this falls under the heading of 'To each his own ',


I was just going by what I read in the news article.If someone from an official watchdog group starts mentioning that it is the Americans peoples right by law then I assume that there is a law regarding this kind of thing??

Therefore whether if people agree or not is irrelevant.
someone_else On August 30, 2012
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#14New Post! Jun 12, 2011 @ 15:34:30
@Wellard Said

I was just going by what I read in the news article.If someone from an official watchdog group starts mentioning that it is the Americans peoples right by law then I assume that there is a law regarding this kind of thing??

Therefore whether if people agree or not is irrelevant.



If there's a law that says that they 'can' but are not obligated to, I think people's opinion may come into play a bit.
boxerdc On December 18, 2012

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#15New Post! Jun 12, 2011 @ 15:42:58
@someone_else Said

If there's a law that says that they 'can' but are not obligated to, I think people's opinion may come into play a bit.


We have the freedom of information act which is probably what these people are referring to. It's one of those silly American things that states that American citizens have the right to know everything about what their government is doing, and the government has an absolute responsibility to respond to requests for any information.

There are some notable exceptions, such as requests for information that would be a threat to national security, and puerile or vindictive requests for personal information.
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