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4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#76New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:44:01
So Chaski, if you're so damn smart.

-name a nation that is socialist that has a good human rights record did not utilize Marxist purge of society ideas. Also, the nation has to be one that is not vulnerable to take over by a tyrannical regime.
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#77New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:44:38
@4d4m Said

...discredit my hypothesis you need to come up with a valid argument...


You have discredited your own hypothesis and refuse to do the research.

Keep the laughs coming.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#78New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:45:40
A dictatorship is a form of government. Socialism is a form of economics. The two are not mutually exclusive. If a dictator directly controls the economy and modes of production, what form of economics is in play?
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#79New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:46:43
@4d4m Said

So Chaski, if you're so damn smart.

-name a nation that is socialist that has a good human rights record did not utilize Marxist purge of society ideas. Also, the nation has to be one that is not vulnerable to take over by a tyrannical regime.



I have not defended any nation that is socialist, so why would start defending one now?
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#80New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:49:38
@chaski Said

I have not defended any nation that is socialist, so why would start defending one now?


I'll accept that. However, the list of Marxist nations that I presented is fairly comprehensive and they all used mass murder to purge their societies of dissenters.
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#81New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:51:42
@4d4m Said

A dictatorship is a form of government.


Correct.

@4d4m Said

Socialism is a form of economics.


Partially correct. Socialism is a political, social and economic.


@4d4m Said

The two are not mutually exclusive.


Correct, the two are not mutually exclusive... and the two are not necessarily found in the same governments/countries.

@4d4m Said
If a dictator directly controls the economy and modes of production, what form of economics is in play?


If a dictator took power and privatized banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, etc... and took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible... what form of economics is in play?
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#82New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:52:48
@4d4m Said

I'll accept that. However, the list of Marxist nations that I presented is fairly comprehensive and they all used mass murder to purge their societies of dissenters.



Not all the nations you put in your list were Marxist.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#83New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:54:10
A dictatorship is a form of government. Socialism is a form of economics. The two are not mutually exclusive. If a dictator directly controls the economy and modes of production, what form of economics is in play?

Further, the economies of the Empires of Europe where capitalist in nature. This led to the rise of the middle class and the conversion of those nations into democracies. Some of those nations converted to Constitutional Monarchies. Other nations saw their royalty lose power completely.
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#84New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:56:04
@4d4m Said

A dictatorship is a form of government. Socialism is a form of economics. The two are not mutually exclusive. If a dictator directly controls the economy and modes of production, what form of economics is in play?


Repeating yourself does not make you correct.

If a dictator took power and privatized banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, etc... and took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible... what form of economics is in play?
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#85New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:56:23
@chaski Said

Correct.



Partially correct. Socialism is a political, social and economic.




Correct, the two are not mutually exclusive... and the two are not necessarily found in the same governments/countries.



If a dictator took power and privatized banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, etc... and took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible... what form of economics is in play?


Incorrect. Socialism is not a political, social and economic system. It is simply a form of economics.

Marxist socialism is a political, social and economic system.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#86New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:57:18
@chaski Said

Not all the nations you put in your list were Marxist.


All of the nations in my list are Marxist because they where Socialist dictatorships.
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#87New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:58:12
@4d4m Said

Incorrect. Socialism is not a political, social and economic system. .


Get a dictionary.
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#88New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 03:59:11
@4d4m Said

All of the nations in my list are Marxist because they where Socialist dictatorships.



Wrong again... as I have explained numerous times.

Your statement are gettin dumber and dumber... have you been drinking?
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#89New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 04:01:11
A dictatorship is a form of government. Socialism is a form of economics. The two are not mutually exclusive. If a dictator directly controls the economy and modes of production, what form of economics is in play?

Further, the economies of the Empires of Europe where capitalist in nature. This led to the rise of the middle class and the conversion of those nations into democracies. Some of those nations converted to Constitutional Monarchies. Other nations saw their royalty lose power completely.

If a dictator took power and privatized industry he would be in the same position as the original Empires of Europe from above. It is logical to assume over time the middle class would rise and the dictatorship would end.

THAT is the whole point of Marxism if you see through the guile or not To recreate the Empires that existed before and put a minority back in power.
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#90New Post! Dec 14, 2020 @ 04:02:52
@4d4m Said

THAT is the whole point of Marxism if you see through the guile or not To recreate the Empires that existed before and put a minority back in power.




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