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crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#31New Post! Jul 26, 2012 @ 05:39:12
@shinobinoz Said

Not with the Citizen's United Ruling fiasco.


What does that have to do with Obama's and Romney's attack ads?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#32New Post! Jul 26, 2012 @ 18:04:10
@crazylikeafox Said

What does that have to do with Obama's and Romney's attack ads?


Your kidding right?
The candidates DON'T respond to the special interest mudslinging?
rocket48 On May 23, 2013




, Texas
#33New Post! Jul 27, 2012 @ 13:00:21
In my opinion, Obama was trying to say that everything you do is a product of someone helping you do it. Thats I agree.
He has been all about taking from the rich and giving it to the poor, so his wording was lengthy and confusing at best.
In Texas, its all Obama ads we hear, but Romney does not need to spend his campaign dollars on Texas.
crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#34New Post! Jul 27, 2012 @ 19:23:43
@shinobinoz Said

Your kidding right?
The candidates DON'T respond to the special interest mudslinging?


The money they get doesn't decide whether or not they mudsling. They decide that on their own.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#35New Post! Jul 27, 2012 @ 23:35:44
@crazylikeafox Said

The money they get doesn't decide whether or not they mudsling. They decide that on their own.


You DO UNDERSTAND how PACs work don't you?
crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#36New Post! Jul 28, 2012 @ 05:17:28
@shinobinoz Said

You DO UNDERSTAND how PACs work don't you?


You DO UNDERSTAND I'm talking about the commercials Obama and Romney are creating themselves, don't you?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#37New Post! Jul 28, 2012 @ 15:50:46
@crazylikeafox Said

You DO UNDERSTAND I'm talking about the commercials Obama and Romney are creating themselves, don't you?


This came about because of Citizens United ruling which is terrible terrible law.
Sure candidates throw mud. But now it has been amplified beyond belief. Thought you should know that.
crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#38New Post! Jul 29, 2012 @ 00:39:06
@shinobinoz Said

This came about because of Citizens United ruling which is terrible terrible law.
Sure candidates throw mud. But now it has been amplified beyond belief. Thought you should know that.


Yes, but we were talking about the candidates themselves, not PAC commercials. I hate all the mudslinging, but the commercials of the PACS aren't something Obama or Romney can do anything about. They CAN do something about their own commercials.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#39New Post! Jul 29, 2012 @ 18:29:12
@crazylikeafox Said

Yes, but we were talking about the candidates themselves, not PAC commercials. I hate all the mudslinging, but the commercials of the PACS aren't something Obama or Romney can do anything about. They CAN do something about their own commercials.


The PAC's are 100% negative. This will drive the candidates to do the same.
crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#40New Post! Jul 29, 2012 @ 22:25:12
@shinobinoz Said

The PAC's are 100% negative. This will drive the candidates to do the same.


The candidates have no control over what they decide to do? I don't think so. It doesn't matter what others are doing. Obama and Romney are responsible for their own commercials. If they are incapable of going positive unless 3rd parties go positive too, then maybe they just aren't cut out for the Presidency in the 1st place?
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#41New Post! Jul 29, 2012 @ 22:27:54
@crazylikeafox Said

The candidates have no control over what they decide to do? I don't think so. It doesn't matter what others are doing. Obama and Romney are responsible for their own commercials. If they are incapable of going positive unless 3rd parties go positive too, then maybe they just aren't cut out for the Presidency in the 1st place?


Or their hands were forced because they have to respond to them?

Get rid of PAC's ability to hide behind anonymity would be a great start!
crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#42New Post! Jul 29, 2012 @ 22:44:01
@shinobinoz Said

Or their hands were forced because they have to respond to them?

Get rid of PAC's ability to hide behind anonymity would be a great start!


But it won't do anything about the candidates themselves, and since they're the ones we're talking about, that makes the status of PACS irrelevent.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#43New Post! Jul 30, 2012 @ 05:07:59
@crazylikeafox Said

But it won't do anything about the candidates themselves, and since they're the ones we're talking about, that makes the status of PACS irrelevent.


Not really. Seeing that the Koch Brothers by them selves will be spending more anti-Obama ads than McCain spent spent his whole election campaign in '08.
crazylikeafox On June 02, 2017




McKinney, Texas
#44New Post! Jul 31, 2012 @ 04:50:47
@shinobinoz Said

Not really. Seeing that the Koch Brothers by them selves will be spending more anti-Obama ads than McCain spent spent his whole election campaign in '08.


But it has nothing to do with Obama and Romney attacking each other does it? If you want to complain about the PACS then do it elswhere. We're talking about the candidates.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
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Wichita, Kansas
#45New Post! Jul 31, 2012 @ 17:59:17
@crazylikeafox Said

But it has nothing to do with Obama and Romney attacking each other does it? If you want to complain about the PACS then do it elswhere. We're talking about the candidates.


Obama did a better job of staying positive (not a whole lot better, but better) than did McCain in 2008.
The amount of negative ads have leaped exponentially since Citizens United ruling and the take off (take over) of air waves by the PAC's and you don't see ANY connection to why the campaigns are responding this way?
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