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4d4m On about 3 hours ago




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#31New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 20:13:35
If one considers the economics of the last few centuries one can get a similar picture. The rise of the middle class as society became more technologically advanced is cited as the main cause for the dethroning of the royalty of European nations. There are a number of Russian writings that cite this. The Brother's Karamazov by Dostoevsky, The Death of Ivan Illyich by Tolstoy to name a couple. As the middle class rose in wealth and education they began to challenge the old order and the Enlightenment began. People questioned the authority of the Church and the Royalty. The American and French Revolutions are direct results.
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#32New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 20:20:49
The advent of Capitalism is a sort of brokered deal between the middle class and the royalty. It allows freedom of individual enterprise. That enterprise requires capital for initiation however. Families with royal backgrounds ( wealth ) could start businesses but middle class and lower class people would have to borrow capital to start theirs. Some royalty did quite well with their business endeavors and others did not. Some even sold their royal titles for money. Maintaining mansions and acres of farms is more difficult when one doesn't own serfs to work them and necessitates business savvy rather than brute force.
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#33New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 20:28:37
Fast forward to the Industrial Revolution. It became apparent the Empires of Europe where under duress from within. Pollution, long dangerous workdays, gross disparity of wealth and standard of life where causing internal strife. The threat of revolution against the monarchies was brewing. The the onset of the hostilities of World War I began. The notable results where; a more powerful and influential United States. The complete destruction of Germany, a bastion of learning before that point, the creation of the United Soviet Socialist Republic, the death of the Ottoman Empire, and the end of the empire of Austria-Hungary.
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#34New Post! Nov 18, 2019 @ 05:08:22
Another result of World War I was the rise of the National Socialists in Germany. Obviously there are other factors. Textbooks will quote the penalizing of Germany by the victorious nations as a contributor to the rise of the Nazis. Another contributing factor was the Great Depression that exacerbated the economic problems of the Weimar Republic. The key word here is Socialist, since we are currently considering economics.
Note then, the Industrial Revolution, World War I, Communism and Socialism.
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#35New Post! Nov 18, 2019 @ 05:50:54
We might pause and compare examples from the history of changing religions, let's call it the Avalanche Control Theory, to World War I. Could we say WWI was an event designed to produce a similar result; the changing of economic norms to a more controllable form? This would enable the rulers of the defunct empires to continue to run society albeit in a more subtle and incognito role. To do this we would have to show World War I was in fact manifested, a created rather than a spontaneous event.
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#36New Post! Nov 18, 2019 @ 05:59:55
The textbook answer to the question of the cause of World War I is the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria by the Serbian terrorist group called The Black Hand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Archduke_Franz_Ferdinand
2 weeks later World War I began. Could this event and the ridiculous ultimatums and alignments of allies been orchestrated? Could the whole thing been nothing more than a charade that lead to the death of 9 millions combatants and 7 million civilians? All over the death of one man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I
4d4m On about 3 hours ago




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#37New Post! Nov 18, 2019 @ 06:23:17
The end of World War I is worth analyzing as well. In the spring of 1917 specific events occurred that started an end to the war. One is the French Army Mutinies. French Soldiers refused to assault the German lines believing that it was futile and a waste of lives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_French_Army_mutinies#Mutinies
A second was the declaration of war by the United States. History books cite the sinking of Lusitania, but this happened in 1915. A letter from the UK claiming Germany was attempting to entice Mexico to attack the United States was the official cause.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#Entry_of_the_United_States
A third was the Bolshevik Revolution that pulled Russia out of the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution#German_support
4d4m On about 3 hours ago




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#38New Post! Nov 20, 2019 @ 03:06:43
By the onset of hostilities in WWII, the Third Reich had taken over most of continental Europe and was opposed to the United Soviet Socialist Republic. A socialist fascist government and a socialist (arguably communist) dictatorship; both having been helped into power by German secret societies.
The United Kingdom had been spared invasion but not attacks on it's soil. The war in Europe was brought to an end just in time to prevent the Nazis from finishing development of the atom bomb.
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#39New Post! Nov 20, 2019 @ 03:15:29
If the Germans hadn't been defeated, if Smedley Butler had not approached congress with his information; we would live in a one world socialist dictatorship. It's interesting to note the globalist agenda today seems to embrace socialism.
4d4m On about 3 hours ago




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#40New Post! Nov 20, 2019 @ 03:21:23
@4d4m Said

I've heard something similar. The trick here would be to pull a Constantine - run the revolution themselves. That way when the Christians outnumber the worshipers of Jupiter you just swap Jupiter for god - rewrite everything and make it out to be your idea in the first place. Or if there was an Industrial Revolution pick the revolutionary philosophies the leaders like the best ( know they can continue to rule easily ) and everyone thinks the people won.

I submit the rise of the Third Reich and the Russian Revolution were attempts at doing exactly this same Avalanche Control in an economic sense as a response to the political and social upheavals resulting from the Industrial Revolution.
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#41New Post! Nov 21, 2019 @ 23:07:29
@4d4m Said

Here's a thought on war and the threat of war. The sociological affect on the mass populace. Usually during a war the populace will begin to lean toward social conservative thought. The Cold War was a time in the US when those opposed to the government would be considered unpatriotic no matter what the government did. Of course there is always that element in society, but they begin to have more influence when there is fear in the air.
The missile attacks on the tankers in the gulf would help the Theocracy in Iran if people there start fearing an attack by the US and it's allies. It would help crush any ongoing civil rights movements and those opposed to the Ayatollah and his government.


Here's an interesting story about current events in Iran
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-gasoline-protests-internet/iran-begins-reconnecting-internet-after-shutdown-over-protests-idUSKBN1XV19R
It's long but it's Reuters news
4d4m On about 3 hours ago




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#42New Post! Nov 24, 2019 @ 15:36:42
To continue this train of thought on revolutions; why did the founding fathers of the United States design the government the way they did? We understand the balance of power between the three branches of government and the bill of rights. They created an environment that in the future would enable their progeny to stave off tyranny. Democracy, freedom of religion, capitalism being the defining features.
The bigger question might be: why are there forces at work trying to change all that? Trying to undermine the bill of right, grant more power to the executive branch, create a socialist form of economics, destroy religions and replace them with psychology? Are they trying to revert us to a monarchy or oligarchy for their progeny?
Or perhaps they believe they will be able to rule the society as tyrants themselves; of course that is difficult to believe as they would be getting older- or is it.
mrmhead On about 7 hours ago




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#43New Post! Nov 25, 2019 @ 02:19:04
@4d4m Said

To continue this train of thought on revolutions; why did the founding fathers of the United States design the government the way they did? We understand the balance of power between the three branches of government and the bill of rights. They created an environment that in the future would enable their progeny to stave off tyranny. Democracy, freedom of religion, capitalism being the defining features.
The bigger question might be: why are there forces at work trying to change all that? Trying to undermine the bill of right, grant more power to the executive branch, create a socialist form of economics, destroy religions and replace them with psychology? Are they trying to revert us to a monarchy or oligarchy for their progeny?
Or perhaps they believe they will be able to rule the society as tyrants themselves; of course that is difficult to believe as they would be getting older- or is it.


Is Trump stumbling into this?
Is he being played? (besides by Putin and Netanyahu)
Is he laying groundwork for a smarter, less-controversial tyrant?
4d4m On about 3 hours ago




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#44New Post! Nov 26, 2019 @ 02:45:55
Honestly I think Trump is a guy being guided. By who or whom he is probably not sure himself. I do know this; the reason he got the job was because the controllers thought he would destroy the credibility of the alt-right. The alt-right is anything they deem is not neocon which includes the other political factions of the republican party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)
There is a list of factions in the right hand column.
Their problem lies in the revelation the neocons are actually socialists and globalists. The result was the Tea Party; a group of right wingers who do not agree with old school republicans.
4d4m On about 3 hours ago




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#45New Post! Nov 26, 2019 @ 02:52:19
Their problem is the whole thing has backfired, either by design or by luck. One example of this is the official story line the Russians caused him to be elected. Russian robots and spammers sending messages and posts to internet social sites caused Trump to win the election and he is Putin's puppet.
This is an obvious lie. Trump lost by 3 million votes. Supposedly the electoral college caused him to be elected. So why blame it on Russian attempts at manipulating the American internet audience. If they did try, and I believe they may have, it didn't work.
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