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4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#16New Post! Nov 15, 2019 @ 00:06:52
True what you say about Rosie. Biden has a plan to stimulate the economy and repair the US infrastructure reminiscent of the CCC from FDR's days.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#17New Post! Nov 15, 2019 @ 00:18:42
During the Cold War conflicts world wide became part of the proxy war between the US and the USSR; and I mean every conflict. The reasons in the geographic locale undermining the unrest that lead to revolution may have varied, but the sides of the conflict would end up choosing between capitalism and communism by sheer virtue of the funds necessary to conduct a revolution, or to put one down. Financing would always be available in communist vs capitalist conflicts.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#18New Post! Nov 15, 2019 @ 00:30:10
The United States for the most part sent "military advisors" to conflict zones to assist whatever side was capitalist, and the Soviet Union would do the same for their communist opponents.
US military advisors are US Army Special Forces teams. These teams made up of 10 men and represent some of the most professional soldiers on the planet. The teams consist of a commanding officer, an executive officer, a senior enlisted staff nco, two combat medics and specialists in logistics, armor, artillery, infantry and intelligence. Each of the members are trained in all the different terrain packages and each speak at least two languages not including English. They have to make the rank of Sargent to apply for the school that they may or may not be accepted to ( highly competitive applicants) or actually graduate from.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#19New Post! Nov 15, 2019 @ 00:35:40
The Special Forces units are basically experts in Insurgency and Counter-insurgency operations. In other words; they know how to create revolutions and they know how to shut revolutions down. We've come a long way in the art of revolution since the founding fathers.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#20New Post! Nov 15, 2019 @ 17:13:36
Revolutions are created by people and by governments. There are many theories about when a nation is most vulnerable to revolution. Most of these theories are put forth by economists. Karl Marx, Warren Ellis, Vladimir Lenin and others. The ones they all tend to agree on are
>> Economic malaise or decline
>> Extended foreign wars
>> Decline of Middle Class
>> Irresponsible use of force and power by the government/societal elite
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#21New Post! Nov 16, 2019 @ 03:59:00
The question then becomes, could a revolution be forced on a government? The answer of course is yes. Economic sanctions are an attempt at forcing a government to do things like abide by a treaty or improve the human rights conditions in their nation. If the economic sanctions persist the possibility of regime change increases as the quality of life of it's populace decreases.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu requested economic sanctions against the government of South Africa to force it to end apartheid. Some argued sanctions would only hurt the common citizens, ie the black people who were being oppressed in the first place.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#22New Post! Nov 16, 2019 @ 08:26:34
So it makes sense that a revolution could be created by causing an economic downturn or recession, involving the nation in a prolonged conflict, making the rich richer and the poor more poor, cutting middle class jobs in favor of those with less wages and creating incidences of police brutality.
These occurrences could be manufactured. The desired result would be a uprising of the people and if modeled after the Iranian revolution, an authoritarian government.
mrmhead On 30 minutes ago




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#23New Post! Nov 16, 2019 @ 14:22:27
@4d4m Said

Revolutions are created by people and by governments. There are many theories about when a nation is most vulnerable to revolution. Most of these theories are put forth by economists. Karl Marx, Warren Ellis, Vladimir Lenin and others. The ones they all tend to agree on are
>> Economic malaise or decline
>> Extended foreign wars
>> Decline of Middle Class
>> Irresponsible use of force and power by the government/societal elite


I've heard that on average nations/countries last around 200 years before major changes - collapse, revolution ...
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#24New Post! Nov 16, 2019 @ 17:45:07
I've heard something similar. The trick here would be to pull a Constantine - run the revolution themselves. That way when the Christians outnumber the worshipers of Jupiter you just swap Jupiter for god - rewrite everything and make it out to be your idea in the first place. Or if there was an Industrial Revolution pick the revolutionary philosophies the leaders like the best ( know they can continue to rule easily ) and everyone thinks the people won.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#25New Post! Nov 16, 2019 @ 17:51:25
Of course to do this it might be necessary to start the revolution themselves as well. Similar to using dynamite to release snow on a mountain that seem ready to have an avalanche. Release the tension in a controlled environment so to speak. To start a revolution one or more of the above listed preconditions might be artificially created.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#26New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 17:16:53
This type of revolution, one implemented by the leaders of a society, would be a bit tricky in that some of the leaders would have to make themselves appear as revolutionaries. The requirement would be to look as if they supported revolutionary thought, and then mold it into the new authority. This would require some changes to the revolutionary movement so that it could become the new standard. If the former mode of rule had proven to be insufficient to hide their rule they would also need to demonize it.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#27New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 17:19:03
All societies have three things that define it. They are
>> A form of government
>> A form of economics
>> A form of religion ( complete lack of religion in communism and socialism is simply replaced by psychology which can be filled with dogma)
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#28New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 17:22:43
In the case of a religious revolution it might be noted the Roman Catholic persecution of the Jews for deicide ( death of Jesus ) and then the Islamic declarations that Christians and Jews are the enemy. Each new religion demonizes the prior one in the historical timeline.
darkman666 On about 10 hours ago




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#29New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 17:57:00
Each new religion demonizes the prior one in the historical timeline.

it like almost like all religion back then. each group show the strengths, but more or less vague about their weakness. for example, the bible - I never read hardly of it, in general. being jewish, with the torah, that torah more or less kind of sugar coats a lot of things that would relevant today for people. the people, who the bible or torah was only try to give information more good than bad in their times.

people, who wrote the books in the bible was hidden more truth than reality that did happen back then. this actions are use to teach lessons in life.

were the people back then who wrote the bible or the torah, the right to this?
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




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#30New Post! Nov 17, 2019 @ 19:47:46
The Hebrew Bible or Tanakh is the basis of the Old Testament of Christianity. The earlier stories are also in the Koran of Islam. The Muslims consider their split from the Jews to be the first child of Abraham named Ishmael born to Sarah's servant Hagar. Sarah chased Hagar and Ishmael out of their house after she was finally able to conceive.
My point is in the Abrahamic religiions the stories keep getting rewritten. That in and of itself is of interest. The stories were written down by prophets who the books are named after about the lives of people in their region. This is obviously of some concern to certain parties when one considers the history of the Jews. There have been attempts at eradicating them and rewriting their books for at least 3500 years and possibly longer considering at the time we know deffinitively of their existance they where slaves in Egypt
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