USA ethnic cleansing and genocide of First Nations.

Stnd w Standing Rock

Wichita, Kansas

May 30, 2009 @ 04:02:07

On September 8, 2000, the head of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) formally apologized for the agency's participation in the "ethnic cleansing" of Western tribes. From the forced relocation and assimilation of the "sauvage" to the white man's way of life to the forced sterilization of Native Americans, the BIA set out to "destroy all things Indian." Through the exploration of the United States' Federal Indian policy, it is evident that this policy intended to "destroy, in whole or in part," the Native American population. The extreme disparity in the number of Native American people living within the United States' borders at the time Columbus arrived, approximately ten million compared to the approximate 2.4 million Indians and Eskimos alive in the United States today, is but one factor that illustrates the success of the government's plan of "Manifest Destiny."
https://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/NorthAmerica/UnitedStates02.htm

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Asme251

Area Man

Boston, Massachusetts

#2

May 30, 2009 @ 04:11:07

Not to mention Andrew Jackson's Indian Removal policy.

The history of Native Americans within the United States is a story of betrayal and destruction. From the beginning, Americans have been breaking their own promises to Indians and going back on court backed treaties. Furthermore, during the expansionist years of the 1850s, Americans actually attempted to exterminate Indians, justifying their actions by asserting that Indians were not fit to live with civilized society, despite their active attempt to do so in the 1830s. Of course, the main reason for their actions was that they wanted land! And now, Americans are telling Israel to stop doing the same thing! Talk about irony!

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shinobinoz

Stnd w Standing Rock

Wichita, Kansas

#3

May 30, 2009 @ 04:13:53

"Genocide has two phases: one, destruction of the national pattern of the oppressed group: the other, the imposition of the national pattern of the oppressor." Raphael Lemkin (coined the term Genocide)

...Article II- In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group, (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part, (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group, (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
USA- guilty

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shinobinoz

Stnd w Standing Rock

Wichita, Kansas

#4

May 30, 2009 @ 04:57:47

For your viewing and listening pleasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD1MNHy2S2M&NR=1

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crazylikeafox

McKinney, Texas

#5

May 30, 2009 @ 07:08:33

So you finally decided to talk about the so-called genocide/ethnic cleansing. To start out with, I would like examples before I respond. It would help to know which events you're thinking of, and to see how accurate to history you're really being.

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skittleyan

, Hong Kong

#6

May 30, 2009 @ 07:12:51

this is a bad blood argument. many nations have dark pasts like this and why fight on it?

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sugarflyguy

Pro-Pho-tographer

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Leaving TFS today:), United Ki

#7

May 30, 2009 @ 07:25:16

@crazylikeafox Said

So you finally decided to talk about the so-called genocide/ethnic cleansing. To start out with, I would like examples before I respond. It would help to know which events you're thinking of, and to see how accurate to history you're really being.

The americans of the past were using religion to try "cleanse the native americans" because of paganism, this sort of attitude was rife, until recently, in Australia, it was not only in America it happened, I am sure it happened in other countries

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shinobinoz

Stnd w Standing Rock

Wichita, Kansas

#8

May 30, 2009 @ 12:19:34

@skittleyan Said

this is a bad blood argument. many nations have dark pasts like this and why fight on it?

Because the US has never admitted to it's own genocide and ethnic cleansing yet thinks it has the moral superiority to condemn all others of it. That's why.

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shinobinoz

Stnd w Standing Rock

Wichita, Kansas

#9

May 30, 2009 @ 12:26:12

@crazylikeafox Said

So you finally decided to talk about the so-called genocide/ethnic cleansing. To start out with, I would like examples before I respond. It would help to know which events you're thinking of, and to see how accurate to history you're really being.

Your history has been whitewashed and cleansed. My kids history book had a section on ethnic cleaning and genocide. It seems to think that started with the Nazis. It touched on some historical cases and went to the Iraq and African attempts of late. Nary a word about the Native American holocaust. That was a short paragraph that read along the lines of this.
The United States and Indians did not always see eye to eye- but what came out of it is known as the Columbian Exchange.
Exchange?
Excuse me, I guess it was. An exchange of Native blood and lands, foods and resources for death camps, forced ethnic cleansing death marches and extinction.
What points do YOU want me to address?

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Edited: May 30, 2009 @ 12:26

treebee

Government Hooker

Moderator

London, United Kingdom

#10

May 30, 2009 @ 12:43:36

Our history in the UK is pretty honest about things. A lot of people assume the nazis are the only ones who did this because its more recent than say what the british did to the people of India or the Carribean or just about most places in the world when our empire ruled.

A lot of people arent aware that it is still happening today in parts of africa because it doesnt make "nice news".

It is taught in schools here, the terrible things we have done in the past. It is not whitewashed any more.

The UK are always apologising for our historial crimes, the most recent was last year for slavery. Some nice speeches were made, apologies were given, a monument was made to promise we wouldnt do it again, some people cried and we all ended up friends.

I think this is a healthy thing to do.

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shinobinoz

Stnd w Standing Rock

Wichita, Kansas

#11

May 30, 2009 @ 12:53:59

That can be very healthy and healing ennit?
No such luck here. The arrogance that the US can do no wrong has always floored me.

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SKUBER

Deleted

N/A,

#12

May 30, 2009 @ 12:54:25

There was a conscious policy of taking tribes from ecological surroundings they were accustomed to,and relocating them in areas that were entirely different!
Since Native Americans lived so close to the land,this policy resulted in horrible hardships for them.

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Edited: May 30, 2009 @ 12:55

roBingoodfElLOW

Baldylocks

Deleted

Over yonder, Tajikistan

#13

May 30, 2009 @ 13:01:31

@shinobinoz Said

On September 8, 2000, the head of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) formally apologized for the agency's participation in the "ethnic cleansing" of Western tribes. From the forced relocation and assimilation of the "sauvage" to the white man's way of life to the forced sterilization of Native Americans, the BIA set out to "destroy all things Indian." Through the exploration of the United States' Federal Indian policy, it is evident that this policy intended to "destroy, in whole or in part," the Native American population. The extreme disparity in the number of Native American people living within the United States' borders at the time Columbus arrived, approximately ten million compared to the approximate 2.4 million Indians and Eskimos alive in the United States today, is but one factor that illustrates the success of the government's plan of "Manifest Destiny."
https://academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/NorthAmerica/UnitedStates02.htm

I notice you mention that there used to be 10m in the times of colubus and there are only 2.5 now. Are you sure there were 10m? That seems an awful lot for those times, when there probably wernt that many people in the known world.
Also, it stands to reason there would be a lot less now, thats hardly suprising seeing as the spanish and english and dutch wiped horific amounts of them from the earth.

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shinobinoz

Stnd w Standing Rock

Wichita, Kansas

#15

May 30, 2009 @ 13:20:27

@RobinGoodfellow Said

I notice you mention that there used to be 10m in the times of colubus and there are only 2.5 now. Are you sure there were 10m? That seems an awful lot for those times, when there probably wernt that many people in the known world.
Also, it stands to reason there would be a lot less now, thats hardly suprising seeing as the spanish and english and dutch wiped horific amounts of them from the earth.

First Nations had towns pre-contact that were larger than any in Europe. There were stone and earthen structures built that dwarft Egyptian pyramids. Trade routes ran from South America to the Artic and east to west coasts. The USA only completed what the spanish, english, & dutch started.
Our ancestors warned of "whites" due to their contact with the Vikings and others.

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