UK Government taking action against Legal Highs

Yeah I think as soon as the media jumped onto the story of the lads' deaths the Government were almost forced to do something about it. I agree that there was probably a bit more to their deaths than just the Mcat, but I can see why the Government would be worried about its long term effects, simply because we don't know what they are as of yet.

Large enough doses can get you high.

Well seems odd then that they would prescribe it at "higher doses" to "block the euphoric effects of heroine".

Because it's legal you can buy it like you can anything else. No shady dealers or meetup points, it gets delivered to you through the post.

The Government want to try and stop this by cutting off the dealers from China and other places where they export the stuff into the UK. I have noticed that a lot of the websites that sold it have been shut down lately actually, so this could be the beginning of it.

Yeah the ex government drugs advisor (who was sacked for not conforming to what the Government wanted) has said banning it would do more harm than good.

https://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/mar/25/mephedrone-drugs-ban-nutt-acmd-crime

Users seem to get around that.

https://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=164218

You mean it's legal for children to buy?

Not personal experience, but second hand info from a friend who had taken it. They may have been mistaken,too. That's why I was genuinely interested. My mom-in-law had previously been addicted to Demerol for migraines. She insisted that the pain completely reduced the narcotic effect but she acted high as a kite when she would get a shot. She would go into withdrawals and all that fun stuff when the shot wore off. She is now on methadone and they had to increase some other medication of hers and she now has to increase her methadone because it 'wasn't working' because of the other drug. The other drug wasn't a narcotic so I now wonder, why did they have to increase the dosage. Hmmm..



I totally don't expect you to answer that. I'm just thinking now.

Yes. Because it's done online anyone can buy it. You don't need to put your age when ordering it so if those under 18 wanted to buy it then all they'd have to do is log onto the site and purchase it.

banning drugs, is the most stupid idea ever.

it literally makes everything worse,

# it help to fuel the illegal drug trade, which funds other major illegal activity's, gangs etc

# it increases drug crime

# it reduces the amount of drugs available slightly, but unfortunately this isn't a good thing, as even though the amount of drug decreases, the demand stays the same, which leads to drugs being mixed with other substances that can cause potential harm.

and of course there are the arguments about, our freedom to do what we wish to our bodies, as long as it doesn't negatively affect others.

and there's also the argument that existing drugs such as alcohol and cigarettes cause more harm but remain legal.

there is no positive from banning drugs, the only solution is to regulate the industry, so that drugs remain pure and at the same time educate people, as a lot of deaths from taking drugs are merely the result from lack of knowledge, i.e someone on ecstasy drinking water to an extent that they "drown".

Recreational users get high off it... I used to experiment a little when I was hanging with a different crowd. When I took it, it was like being on meth... but it also made me a raging b****. It had that effect on several people I know...

I completely agree with Nutt's whole Class D idea. It makes sense to keep an eye on drugs that we do not completely know about in terms of long term effects, but just out-right banning it is only going to push people onto the harder stuff or find another legal drug that will inevitably be created due to the banning of Mcat to take its place.

Well, correcting that would be the first (and only) step IMNTBHO. I'm assuming you have measures to prevent the purchase of alcohol and other such substances by children over the Net.

That forum was about how to get high on other stuff while still using methadone. Not getting high from the methadone itself.

any site that I've be on, that sells things for over 18's, require a credit card, which in theory only 18+ old people should have