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@chaski Said

Now that was both funny and excellent!

@mrmhead Said


I wonder if that's how Pence swallows

@gakINGKONG Said

I wonder if the US president knows just how much hot water he's in. Seems like this guy just doesn't get it. It's like he thinks he'll beat this or something.

@chaski Said

1. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.

2. Now he is saying he might ask China to do the same thing.

So, let's pretend like the Bidens did something illegal.

Even if the Bidens did something illegal, it is inappropriate for the president of the USA to reach out to the leaders of any country (in this case the Ukraine and possibly China) to request investigations.

More importantly, such a request is not needed.

Enter The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

If the Bidens, or anyone else for that matter, committed a crime (and we're talking about financial frauds here), Trump wouldn't need to contact anyone but AG Barr and/or the FBI and ask them to do their jobs... in this case conduct investigations into alleged frauds perpetrated by the Bidens in regards to international business dealings and possibly international political influence. In fact, Trump could probably have a quiet conversation with Barr, who could have handled the entire thing through official investigative channels and no one ever would have known that Trump even cared about the issue.

Both the Department of Justice and the FBI are familiar with international fraud investigations and The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. The odds are that both the Department of Justice and the FBI have already conducted international criminal investigation with the support, knowledge and/or assistance of the Ukraine and China (and numerous other countries for that matter).

The procedure is simple.

Admittedly the procedures vary between countries (administrative/judicial paperwork... etc), but they are, ultimately, fairly simplistic and straight forward.

For the president of the USA to make any such calls, especially on the brink of an election year, is actually both extraordinary and extraordinary stupid.

Personally I think Trump is doing this to further divide our country and test just how far he can go.

@chaski Said

1. Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the Bidens.

2. Now he is saying he might ask China to do the same thing.

@mrmhead Said

1. is correct as evidenced in the phone call transcript "I'd like you to do a favor.."

2. -from what I recently read - is Incorrect:

He said (in so many words) "Maybe China should investigate the Bidens too since what they've done in China is worse than Ukraine"

.. So that gives the lemmings a bit of wiggle room: "He didn't ASK China" (just suggested )...


.... Found it:

What the President said: Trump said that he has not asked Chinese President Xi Jinping to investigate Biden, but said “China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine."

@chaski Said

Yes.

Thanks for the clarification on that.

So basically Trump has sometimes directly asked foreign countries to intervene in our politics, other times subtly suggested they should, and other times asked/suggested that they should commit acts that are crimes in the USA (hacking into a political competitor's accounts)....

He's an icon of American values and democracy.

I know I'm proud of Trump, and can't wait for a Democrat version of Trump to play the same "let's destroy America" game.

@chaski Said

CIA's top lawyer made 'criminal referral' on complaint about Trump Ukraine call...

Experts are raising questions about why the Justice Department did not open an investigation.

@mrmhead Said

Because we all know that lawyer is treasonous.

And you know what we did about treason in the good old days. When America was Great!!

@DiscordTiger Said

Sigh. It’s been a long week. Checking my news/social media apps makes me feel like life would be better if I was a bear.

I could have my arms, salmon, fruit and wouldn’t give a f*** about the latest trumpsterf***. And it’s acceptable for bear to eat an bunch and sleep though the f***ing winter.