The debt ceiling is unconsitituional

@shinobinoz Said

Interesting!
I heard on NPR an apology sounded about right.
The speaker said something like:
I can have an argument and discussion with my daughters over their credit card expenditures but the DEBT STILL HAS TO BE PAID!

The pubs need to do the right thing here.
The argument & discussion is for later.

@shinobinoz Said

Interesting!
I heard on NPR an apology sounded about right.
The speaker said something like:
I can have an argument and discussion with my daughters over their credit card expenditures but the DEBT STILL HAS TO BE PAID!

The pubs need to do the right thing here.
The argument & discussion is for later.

@fractal7221 Said

Except that's not what the debate is about. Its not at all like pay off your credit card. Its more like getting more credit cards to continue spending.

Plus the 14th amendment section 4 was primarily about establishing which debts were to be paid after the Civil War. (i.e. the foreign debts racked up by the south were not included).

@Junkyard_Jim Said

...the dems "need to do the right thing here".

@fractal7221 Said

Except that's not what the debate is about. Its not at all like pay off your credit card. Its more like getting more credit cards to continue spending.

Plus the 14th amendment section 4 was primarily about establishing which debts were to be paid after the Civil War. (i.e. the foreign debts racked up by the south were not included).

@Junkyard_Jim Said

There's also that related discussion with the daughters regarding controlling their spending so the debt can be repaid and not run up repeatedly bringing the same bad result over and over. That may be where the dems "need to do the right thing here".

@fractal7221 Said

Except that's not what the debate is about. Its not at all like pay off your credit card. Its more like getting more credit cards to continue spending.

@sAeGeSpAeNe Said

The slew of Dems that populate the House and Senate (..let's ignore the White House, for now...) have proven themselves incapable of considering what it is you are proposing. Theirs is an attitude of "we have to spend more, if we are going to see any improvement," and that is an attitude that is completely out of place.

@Leon Said

According to the Republicans, as they have conditionally tied both.

But Geithner is just saying money is needed to make the minimum payment on the current credit card.

@sAeGeSpAeNe Said

Do you guys hear some sort of echo in the room? Maybe it's just the buzzing of the flys coming in from the open windows...?

@shinobinoz Said

That discussion is for later (and it must include the just as responsible pubs).
Right now we must raise the ceiling to pay the debt before sending the country (closely followed by the global economies).

Any other time (preferably now) we can continue the argument of how much of austerity gets hammered on the voiceless, powerless poor & middle-class and how much should be funded by the wealthy who have not seen a decline in revenue for the most part but actually have seen a widening between them & the rest of us.

@Junkyard_Jim Said

BS! It has to be part of the discussion. Your example using the "daughters" is ridiculous. We pay the overspending by the federal government. We have every right to demand fiscal responsibility along with the mandatory taxes the dems propose. To do less is irresponsible.

Your voiceless, powerless poor & middle class will never be abandoned. Not even by the conservatives whom you find so distasteful. Your comment is pure BS.