The Shocking Data on Black-on-Black Crime

@townie_guy Said

Also some parents work long hours, so the kids are in effect bought up by the gangs and there friends. Education is only any good if you are willing to get educated. Just turning up and sitting through lessons dosnt mean anything if you dont take it in.

@rosexthorn Said

I take offense to this comment. My son was in a gang when he was in his teens and it was not because of my parenting. He told me that the reason he joined the gang was because of the pressures he was having in and out of school with others of his age. Got held up at gunpoint and made the choice [his choice] to join a gang for some backup. I did not smoke pot, do crack nor was I abusive in any manner.

As for following a teenager around 24/7 is impossible to do and curfews are impossible to enforce if the teen wants to go out period. Getting the police involved only exacerbates all problems as they like many love to blame the parents. Quit giving them scapegoats for their actions and start placing responsibilities on their shoulders and then maybe we'll see some changes from the youth. Until that time why shouldn't they act up if all is going to be put directly on the parent/parents? Generalizations are so easy to make yet are far from facts.

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Between 2001 and 2005, blacks ages 12 to 19 made up
about 37% of all black robbery victims, a percentage similar
to that for Hispanics (table 3). Males made up the majority
of robbery victims among blacks, whites and Hispanics.
About a third of black robbery victims lived in households
with annual incomes of less than $15,000.

@white_swan53 Said

What was your idea on how to encourage better parenting skills ?
There isn't any mention in the article about the gangs and this issue. Not that I don't think that the gangs play a huge role in the crimes committed all across the nation , it just seems strange that there isn't any mention of that aspect of the problems young people are facing today .

@offbeat Said

interestingly , there is a scene in one of spike lee's movies , where a man puts forward the belief that black areas have more than their fair share of gun shops because the people in charge want to make it easier for blacks to kill each other ....i think the actor is lawrence fishbourne ..the movie i don't know .

@DorkySupergirl Said

Exactly. I could be wrong but I think in America, a vast majority of those living in poverty are African Americans and many end up in gangs. So thus why the black on black crime, from my understanding it usually has to do with drugs, gangs, turf war etc, is the highest.

The same things would be true of any race if the conditions were the same.

@white_swan53 Said

I have been reading though the Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report , there are 12 pages to the report and I'm not even half way done , but as of yet , no mention of gangs being a factor in black on black ' crimes.
Most street gangs that recruit young kids will take all the members they can get and will victimise any one they get a chance to , the gangs aren't what is the root cause for The black on black crimes.

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Do you notice that these stats are reporting that the victims are the ages of most gang bangers ?
That tell me that the theory of it being gangs that are the main cause for black on black crimes has some huge holes in it.

@nooneinparticular Said

No, that simply implies gangs are open and their membership is varied, at least for the ones with little power or just looking to expand recognition or something.

Just because they victimize everyone does not imply they are not a contributing factor to black on black violence.



Really? That seems to support the view that gangs are related in some way more than it doesn't. At the very least, it doesn't seem to imply the opposite. Namely that gangs are not related.

Of course, since this is robbery incidence rate and not, say, homicide rate, or aggravated assault, or assault and battery, the motivations and whatnot could actually be significantly different.

@white_swan53 Said

I said gangs are not the root cause of black on black crimes. No one that has read a paper or listened to a news report for the last 20 years would be dumb enough to think that gangs aren't a contributing factor .

@nooneinparticular Said

And how much of a percentage would justify a designation as a root cause?

@restoreone Said

84% of all whites killed are killed by whites.Most killings are done by people who know in some way the people they killed. If you live in a high rate of blacks you will most likely be killed by a black. If you live in a high rate of whites then you will most likely be killed by a white.

@ninozara Said

Have you seen Attack the Block? It was on last night, it's about an alien invasion on a London estate.

Anyone one of the characters says the aliens were probably sent by the government to kill the black people. He says first they sent drugs, then they sent guns, but we're still not killing each other off fast enough, so they sent these things to do it for us. Which was an interesting way to look at it!



So true! During the Victorian Era people though that the Irish were a criminal race, they they were intrinsically bad. Obviously they weren't, but they were generally living in great poverty. Some people thought that of all the poor, that there was something genetically wrong with them that made they criminals. People living in poverty are more likely to be around 'blue collar' crime, either as victims of perpetrators.

@DorkySupergirl Said


And that's not an excuse because its still wrong but we also need to look at the why and what can be done to make changes instead of just thinking certain races are certain ways.