The Shocking Data on Black-on-Black Crime

@townie_guy Said

Ok, now once we drop race, we come onto another contraversial topic. Drugs. SHould they be legallised or not?

The only reason most the crime takes place, the shootings, the torturing, etc. Is because drugs are illegal.

If they were legalised the middle man, the criminal element would be took out of the equation. Also drugs would be produced to a higher quality and mdma would be mdma not rat poison.

People want to get high, that is a fact of life. Look at alchhol, that is now legal. It used to be just as bad.

However the fact that drugs are illegal, makes them seem attractive to younger people, its just plain simple rebelling against the system. The same with underage smoking, its a way of rebelling against the system.

@white_swan53 Said

It is a well known fact that the Federal Bureau of Intimidation or FBI, has always treated the native American community as if it were their own private 'whipping boy'.
Let me ask you a hypnotical question .
If the native American community had a similar issue of native American on native American violence , would you have the same attitude about wanting someone else to do something about the issues ? Would you be making the same comments about the native American community as you are saying about the black community ?


For that matter, the native Americans have survived 10 times the horror and oppression and violence though out history at the hands of the American government then any other ethnic group in this nation . Why is it that the native American comunity has always been a 'hands on' type and always stepped up to do all they can to deal with and help their own, from within .

@shinobinoz Said

Who says the black community has not stepped up too?
Again- most all of the social ills are due to the economic situation where it is happening- matters not what race.

@townie_guy Said

Well no-one raises an eybrow for it like they do black-on-black.

@shinobinoz Said

Who says the black community has not stepped up too?
Again- most all of the social ills are due to the economic situation where it is happening- matters not what race.

@Spinkiegirl Said

Whatever....

@shinobinoz Said

Decriminalizing certain drugs makes good sense.

@townie_guy Said

Most the trouble is drugs and music.

Gangster Rap is a predominately black thing. Tupac, 50 Cent and all that, it makes being a gangster look cool. The white community has no such thing really, even Eminem isnt gangsta rap its just Hip-Hop.

In the UK we had the Bassline, 4 x 4 and Speed Garage scene, but again that wasnt a white thing. Ive been in those placs and I did stick out like a sore thumb, the only reason I didnt get shot was because I knew people.

Also when you look at Bassline, when it was underground it was a northern thing not a southern thing. And the North has always been a lot rougher than the south and a lot less civilised. However the North is mostly working class as well due to Industry where as the South isnt.

@shinobinoz Said

Yeah, No skinhead racists either eh?

@townie_guy Said

Most the trouble is drugs and music.

Gangster Rap is a predominately black thing. Tupac, 50 Cent and all that, it makes being a gangster look cool. The white community has no such thing really, even Eminem isnt gangsta rap its just Hip-Hop.

In the UK we had the Bassline, 4 x 4 and Speed Garage scene, but again that wasnt a white thing. Ive been in those placs and I did stick out like a sore thumb, the only reason I didnt get shot was because I knew people.

Also when you look at Bassline, when it was underground it was a northern thing not a southern thing. And the North has always been a lot rougher than the south and a lot less civilised. However the North is mostly working class as well due to Industry where as the South isnt.

@townie_guy Said

I like rap music myself. Are you saying that Gangsta Rap has no influence what so ever. And that Tupac Amaru Shakur didnt inspire gangsta rap at all. As he was actually the first Gangsta Rapper as far as I know



If you actually listen to Rap music yourself, you will actually hear the rappers say that kids do idealise them and do follow in there footsteps.

Ive seen the Club Scene and I dont mean the public side. Ive worked for 2 nightclubs, both of which had legal problems concearning various substances. And Ive also been involved in the illegal rave scene and I know how the drug dealing works and I know the s*** that kicks off from it. And all an illegal rave is, is one big party focussing on music as thats what brings the kids together, but as illegal recreational drugs are involved, this stems crime.

Ive been to clubs like Niche in Sheffield, when Bassline was an underground movement. And it did attract a lot of gangsters. However as a lot of the lyrics are about being a gangsta, a lot of kids try to immitate it. Hence the phrase Plastic Gangster. Sooner or later when they start acting the big man because of the music they mess with the real life thing.

So can you honestly say music has no influence on violence.

@townie_guy Said

I like rap music myself. Are you saying that Gangsta Rap has no influence what so ever. And that Tupac Amaru Shakur didnt inspire gangsta rap at all. As he was actually the first Gangsta Rapper as far as I know



If you actually listen to Rap music yourself, you will actually hear the rappers say that kids do idealise them and do follow in there footsteps.

Ive seen the Club Scene and I dont mean the public side. Ive worked for 2 nightclubs, both of which had legal problems concearning various substances. And Ive also been involved in the illegal rave scene and I know how the drug dealing works and I know the s*** that kicks off from it. And all an illegal rave is, is one big party focussing on music as thats what brings the kids together, but as illegal recreational drugs are involved, this stems crime.

Ive been to clubs like Niche in Sheffield, when Bassline was an underground movement. And it did attract a lot of gangsters. However as a lot of the lyrics are about being a gangsta, a lot of kids try to immitate it. Hence the phrase Plastic Gangster. Sooner or later when they start acting the big man because of the music they mess with the real life thing.

So can you honestly say music has no influence on violence.

@white_swan53 Said

Wow, it must be something in the drinking water or maybe in the air here on TFS.

I didn't even hint about any of what you have just said /assumed I said or meant or thought about when I ask my question.
I do think that if a person is already inclined to be a criminal then rap music could be their choice .
But NO I don't believe rap has as much influence as it's being given here in this thread.

@townie_guy Said

I like rap music myself. Are you saying that Gangsta Rap has no influence what so ever. And that Tupac Amaru Shakur didnt inspire gangsta rap at all. As he was actually the first Gangsta Rapper as far as I know



If you actually listen to Rap music yourself, you will actually hear the rappers say that kids do idealise them and do follow in there footsteps.

Ive seen the Club Scene and I dont mean the public side. Ive worked for 2 nightclubs, both of which had legal problems concearning various substances. And Ive also been involved in the illegal rave scene and I know how the drug dealing works and I know the s*** that kicks off from it. And all an illegal rave is, is one big party focussing on music as thats what brings the kids together, but as illegal recreational drugs are involved, this stems crime.

Ive been to clubs like Niche in Sheffield, when Bassline was an underground movement. And it did attract a lot of gangsters. However as a lot of the lyrics are about being a gangsta, a lot of kids try to immitate it. Hence the phrase Plastic Gangster. Sooner or later when they start acting the big man because of the music they mess with the real life thing.

So can you honestly say music has no influence on violence.